Complex roots of a quadratic equation

Glitch

The question:

Use the properties of the complex conjugate to show that if the complex number 'z' is a root of a quadratic equation $$\displaystyle ax^2 + bx + c = 0$$ with a, b, c being real coefficients, then so is the conjugate of 'z'.

My attempt:

Let z = $$\displaystyle z_{1} \pm z_2i$$

$$\displaystyle \frac{-b \pm \sqrt{b^2 - 4ac}}{2a} = z_{1} \pm z_2i$$

$$\displaystyle \frac{1}{2a}(-b \pm \sqrt{b^2 - 4ac}) = z_{1} \pm z_2i$$

Basically, I changed the quadratic formula to look like a complex number in Cartesian form. Is this an acceptable answer? My textbook doesn't have solutions for 'show' and 'prove' questions.

Thanks!

Prove It

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The roots of $$\displaystyle ax^2 + bx + c = 0$$ are

$$\displaystyle x = \frac{-b \pm \sqrt{b^2 - 4ac}}{2a}$$.

If $$\displaystyle b^2 - 4ac < 0$$ then that means $$\displaystyle \sqrt{b^2 - 4ac}$$ is imaginary. So we can say $$\displaystyle \sqrt{b^2 - 4ac} = ni$$, where $$\displaystyle n$$ is some multiple of $$\displaystyle i$$.

So $$\displaystyle x = \frac{-b \pm n i}{2a}$$

$$\displaystyle = -\frac{b}{2a} \pm \left(\frac{n}{2a}\right)i$$.

So the two roots are complex conjugates.

Glitch

Glitch

Ahh, thanks. So would my solution be acceptable, or should I simplify it like yours?

Prove It

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Ahh, thanks. So would my solution be acceptable, or should I simplify it like yours?
To be honest, I can't really follow your solution...

Glitch

It's pretty much the same as yours, except you replaced the square root with 'ni'. I was trying to show that the general form of a complex number is equivalent to a simplified quadratic formula.

Plato

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The question:
Use the properties of the complex conjugate to show that if the complex number 'z' is a root of a quadratic equation $$\displaystyle ax^2 + bx + c = 0$$ with a, b, c being real coefficients, then so is the conjugate of 'z'.
The standard way of proving the is to use properties of the complex conjugate.
If $$\displaystyle a$$ is a real number then $$\displaystyle \overline{a}=a$$.
The conjugate of a sum is the sum of conjugates.
Therefore we have:

$$\displaystyle \overline {az^2 + bz + c} = \overline 0 = 0\, \Rightarrow \,a\overline z ^2 + b\overline z + c = 0$$

HallsofIvy

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The question:

Use the properties of the complex conjugate to show that if the complex number 'z' is a root of a quadratic equation $$\displaystyle ax^2 + bx + c = 0$$ with a, b, c being real coefficients, then so is the conjugate of 'z'.

My attempt:

Let z = $$\displaystyle z_{1} \pm z_2i$$

$$\displaystyle \frac{-b \pm \sqrt{b^2 - 4ac}}{2a} = z_{1} \pm z_2i$$

$$\displaystyle \frac{1}{2a}(-b \pm \sqrt{b^2 - 4ac}) = z_{1} \pm z_2i$$
But at this point you haven't yet said that $$\displaystyle \sqrt{b^2- 4ac}$$ is an imaginary number!

Basically, I changed the quadratic formula to look like a complex number in Cartesian form. Is this an acceptable answer? My textbook doesn't have solutions for 'show' and 'prove' questions.

Thanks!

Also sprach Zarathustra

The standard way of proving the is to use properties of the complex conjugate.
If $$\displaystyle a$$ is a real number then $$\displaystyle \overline{a}=a$$.
The conjugate of a sum is the sum of conjugates.
Therefore we have:

$$\displaystyle \overline {az^2 + bz + c} = \overline 0 = 0\, \Rightarrow \,a\overline z ^2 + b\overline z + c = 0$$
...and it is true for every polynomial...

Glitch

Fair point. So if I add:

When $$\displaystyle b^2 - 4ac < 0$$, $$\displaystyle \sqrt{b^2 - 4ac} = ni, n \in R$$

And replace the square root with the imaginary part 'n', would that suffice?

Soroban

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Hello, Glitch!

I have a very primitive solution . . .

Use the properties of the complex conjugate to show that
if the complex number $$\displaystyle z$$ is a root of a quadratic equation
$$\displaystyle f(x) \:=\:ax^2 + bx + c = 0$$ with $$\displaystyle a, b, c$$ real coefficients,
then so is the conjugate of $$\displaystyle z.$$

We are told that $$\displaystyle z \:=\ + qi$$ is a solution of the quadratic.

. . Hence: .$$\displaystyle a(p+qi)^2 + b(p+qi) + c \:=\:0$$

This simplifies to: .$$\displaystyle (ap^2 - aq^2 + bp + c) + q(2ap + b)i \;=\;0$$

. . And we have: .$$\displaystyle \begin{Bmatrix}ap^2 - aq^2 + bp + c \;=\;0 \\ q(2ap + b) \;=\;0 \end{Bmatrix}$$

The conjugate of $$\displaystyle z$$ is: .$$\displaystyle \overline z \:=\ - qi$$

Consider $$\displaystyle f(\overline z) \;=\;a(p-qi)^2 + b(p-qi) + c$$

. . . . . . .$$\displaystyle f(\overline z) \;=\;\underbrace{(ap^2 - aq^2 + bp + c)}_{\text{This is 0}} - \underbrace{q(2ap + b)}_{\text{This is 0}}i$$

$$\displaystyle \text{Therefore: }\:f(\overline z) \,=\,0\:\text{ and }\:\overline z\text{ is also a solution.}$$

Glitch