# Find the Cos(2alpha) when its in the 2nd quadrant

• Nov 24th 2012, 09:24 AM
M670
Find the Cos(2alpha) when its in the 2nd quadrant
Given http://webwork.mathstat.concordia.ca...c2857149a1.png and http://webwork.mathstat.concordia.ca...8404cc84e1.png is in quadrant II, find exact values of the six trigonometric functions.

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I know I need to set $cos(2\alpha)=1-2\sin^2(\alpha)$ which is then $\frac{31}{49}=1-2\sin^2(\alpha)$ which is then $2\sin^2(\alpha)=1-\frac{31}{49}$ now I think I get $2\sin^2(\alpha)= \frac{49}{49}-\frac{39}{49}=\frac{18}{49}$ from here I need some help ? $2\sin^2(\alpha)=\frac{18}{49}$
• Nov 24th 2012, 09:29 AM
skeeter
Re: Find the Cos(2alpha) when its in the 2nd quadrant
something's wrong here ... if $2\alpha$ is in quad II , then $\cos(2\alpha) < 0$. Your posted value for $\cos(2\alpha) > 0$
• Nov 24th 2012, 09:32 AM
M670
Re: Find the Cos(2alpha) when its in the 2nd quadrant
Quote:

Originally Posted by skeeter
something's wrong here ... if $2\alpha$ is in quad II , then $\cos(2\alpha) < 0$. Your posted value for $\cos(2\alpha) > 0$

I realized that but this is the online question I need to answer from the university, my $\cos(2\alpha)$ should be a negative number if it is in the quad II
• Nov 24th 2012, 09:33 AM
Plato
Re: Find the Cos(2alpha) when its in the 2nd quadrant
Quote:

Originally Posted by M670
Given http://webwork.mathstat.concordia.ca...c2857149a1.png and http://webwork.mathstat.concordia.ca...8404cc84e1.png is in quadrant II, find exact values of the six trigonometric functions.

There is a serious flaw with this question.

If $2\alpha\in II$ then it is impossible that $\cos(\2\alpha)=\frac{31}{49}$.

The $\cos$ is negative in quadrant II.
• Nov 24th 2012, 09:38 AM
M670
Re: Find the Cos(2alpha) when its in the 2nd quadrant
Is there anyway to solve this problem as it's due for Monday? If say I tried to solve for $\cos(2\alpha)=-\frac{31}{49}$
• Nov 24th 2012, 09:40 AM
skeeter
Re: Find the Cos(2alpha) when its in the 2nd quadrant
Quote:

Originally Posted by M670
I realized that but this is the online question I need to answer from the university, my $\cos(2\alpha)$ should be a negative number if it is in the quad II

... then you need to contact the responsible someone at your university and let them know the error.
• Nov 24th 2012, 09:42 AM
M670
Re: Find the Cos(2alpha) when its in the 2nd quadrant
See this is a bit of a problem I am at a university in Montreal that is using this program developed and maintained by the university of Rochester, so getting a response is very slow....
• Nov 24th 2012, 09:48 AM
skeeter
Re: Find the Cos(2alpha) when its in the 2nd quadrant

$2\sin^2{\alpha} = \frac{18}{49}$

so ... $\sin{\alpha} = \, ?$
• Nov 24th 2012, 09:53 AM
M670
Re: Find the Cos(2alpha) when its in the 2nd quadrant
Quote:

Originally Posted by skeeter

$2\sin^2{\alpha} = \frac{18}{49}$

so ... $\sin{\alpha} = \, ?$

I believe it would be $\sin{\alpha} = \frac{\frac{\sqrt18}{49}}{2}$
• Nov 24th 2012, 09:58 AM
skeeter
Re: Find the Cos(2alpha) when its in the 2nd quadrant
no.

$2\sin^2{\alpha} = \frac{18}{49}$

$\sin^2{\alpha} = \frac{9}{49}$

$\sin{\alpha} = \pm \frac{3}{7}$

now ... you have to determine which is the correct value (the plus or the minus value). how will you determine that?
• Nov 24th 2012, 10:34 AM
M670
Re: Find the Cos(2alpha) when its in the 2nd quadrant
That would be determined by the fact the question is asking me to look in the 2nd quad and sin of an angle in QII is positive
• Nov 24th 2012, 10:48 AM
skeeter
Re: Find the Cos(2alpha) when its in the 2nd quadrant
if ...

$\frac{\pi}{2} < 2\alpha < \pi$

then ...

$\frac{\pi}{4} < \alpha < \frac{\pi}{2}$

... therefore, $\alpha$ is an angle in quad I
• Nov 24th 2012, 10:57 AM
Plato
Re: Find the Cos(2alpha) when its in the 2nd quadrant
Quote:

Originally Posted by skeeter
something's wrong here ... if $2\alpha$ is in quad II , then $\cos(2\alpha) < 0$. Your posted value for $\cos(2\alpha) > 0$

Don't you think it is pointless to continue to speculate on what the correct question should have been?

I suspect that whoever wrote the question meant $\alpha\in II$. That would make all the information consistent and tell us $2\alpha\in IV$.
• Nov 24th 2012, 11:10 AM
M670
Re: Find the Cos(2alpha) when its in the 2nd quadrant
Well I just put inputted $\sin(\alpha)=\frac{3}{7}$ and the answer is correct I received 17% out of 100 because I didn't answer the other 5 functions but I still have 1 more attempt to add in the rest of the answer correct..
• Nov 24th 2012, 11:24 AM
M670
Re: Find the Cos(2alpha) when its in the 2nd quadrant
I believe $\cos(\alpha)=\frac{x}{7}$ $X=\sqrt40$ so $\cos(\alpha)=\frac{\sqrt40}{7}$ Does this make sense?