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**Berkeley** Since I am new to math, I won't try to describe mathematically why you can't win at roulette, but I can describe a little experiment I tried. I used a computer program and ran all kinds of betting strategies. I found that with a decent stake up front, say 10,000 and a conservative betting strategy, I could consistently make money playing the odds on red or black. So, I decided to check out a local casino (I live right by some very large casinos). I went to the roulette wheel and watched for a while.

Guess what? It doesn't matter what the computer simulation showed me. It left out the fact that I would have to sit for hours around a bunch of grungy losers who are all smoking huge quantities of cigarrettes and losing their rent money. It's certainly possible to make a respectable dollar/hr average, but the working conditions in that particular occupation are horrible.

And if you try to beat your system, win fast and get out? You end up a grungy loser gambling your rent money and smoking huge quantities of cigarrettes.

This direct observation of the game really needs to be in any math formula related to roulette.