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    Simple Roulette System

    Hello, my first post, so please excuse any mistakes

    Could someone please tell me the odds of making a profit from this simple system. I live in the UK so the wheel only has one 0. I am only interested in Red or Black, or odds and evens if you prefer. I would wait until the same colour comes in three times, then I bet against it, ie: Three Reds come in, I bet on Black. Thanks for any help, could you please make replies in plain english because it's been many years since I last did sums
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    Quote Originally Posted by blisters View Post
    Hello, my first post, so please excuse any mistakes

    Could someone please tell me the odds of making a profit from this simple system. I live in the UK so the wheel only has one 0. I am only interested in Red or Black, or odds and evens if you prefer. I would wait until the same colour comes in three times, then I bet against it, ie: Three Reds come in, I bet on Black. Thanks for any help, could you please make replies in plain english because it's been many years since I last did sums
    You do realise that on a fair wheel, the probability of black is the same each spin of the wheel (and is equal to the probability of red), regardless of previous results ......

    The probability of balck does not increase simply because of a previous run on red.

    The odds of making a profit using your system are exactly the same as if you just bet randomly.
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    Thanks for your reply, but after three reds, would you put your money on another red to come in, from the begining of time to the end of time, things will even out. If I back black after three reds come in, in the past or future a red will come in after three blacks. And as for doubling up not working, all that is needed is a bit of discipline I think, mathematics dose'nt take into account human greed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by blisters View Post
    Thanks for your reply, but after three reds, would you put your money on another red to come in, from the begining of time to the end of time, things will even out. If I back black after three reds come in, in the past or future a red will come in after three blacks. And as for doubling up not working, all that is needed is a bit of discipline I think, mathematics dose'nt take into account human greed.
    What you think is a common fallacy.

    Roulette wheels have no memory. They don't know how many reds or blacks have appeared prior to the current spin. If the wheel is fair, it doesn't matter whether 3 or 300 consecutive reds were spun - the black is no more likely to appear than the red on the next spin.

    The only one that will make money from your system in the long run is the casino.

    You would do well to research this area more thoroughly before going to a casino and using your system.

    Note: Casinos place a limit on how much you can bet on a spin.
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    Thanks for your time, I think I'll stick to horse racing, at least you can shout and scream when it loses
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    how about this? you go in and bet 1 on red it loses. so you then bet 2 on red it loses. then you bet 4 on red. it loses. you bet 8 on red and it wins.

    you win 16

    you bet 1+2+4+8 = 15

    You will always win one more than your losses if you keep doubling your bet. But its similar to the previous post. the outcome is not dependant on previous outcomes.
    Of course if black came out 10 times in a row you would be on a pretty big bet.

    But with a large enough bank roll.....?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Niall101 View Post
    how about this? you go in and bet 1 on red it loses. so you then bet 2 on red it loses. then you bet 4 on red. it loses. you bet 8 on red and it wins.

    you win 16

    you bet 1+2+4+8 = 15

    You will always win one more than your losses if you keep doubling your bet. But its similar to the previous post. the outcome is not dependant on previous outcomes.
    Of course if black came out 10 times in a row you would be on a pretty big bet.

    But with a large enough bank roll.....?
    There is a House limit in all casinos for this very reason.
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    yeah I guess! but the same would apply to betting on one number in the lotto. Here you get 5-1 on it. so you'd only have to increase your bet by 20% or something each time.
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    It doesn't matter how many times you explain to people, people will still be blinded by the casino thinking it is a game of luck but what has to be remembered is the fact that there is no money made through luck; Casinos aren't trawling in the money through pure luck.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Niall101 View Post
    how about this? you go in and bet 1 on red it loses. so you then bet 2 on red it loses. then you bet 4 on red. it loses. you bet 8 on red and it wins.

    you win 16

    you bet 1+2+4+8 = 15

    You will always win one more than your losses if you keep doubling your bet. But its similar to the previous post. the outcome is not dependant on previous outcomes.
    Of course if black came out 10 times in a row you would be on a pretty big bet.

    But with a large enough bank roll.....?
    It works in theory until you hit '0'

    Also it's an awful amount of work for such small return. So if you increase the stake you decrease the amount of times you can 'double up' till you hit the house limit.
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    Yeah i know. be sitting there fo so long lol. Anyways when I play roulette (which is not very often) I like to play the zero game mostly. or bet on sections on the wheel rather than single number or outside bets.
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    Roulette is a guaranteed way to lose money, as we all know. I've read a few systems (the most common one being the one previously mentioned) and even remember someone posting computer simulations of using the method and predicting the profit/loss. It always ends up bad.

    I don't know how people play casino games where it is well known that the House will take your money, period. The only two games that are beatable in a casino are blackjack and poker. Blackjack requires counting cards for a marginal profit and a high variance - not worth it. Poker allows you to capitalize on the irrational decisions of tourists who want to play that game they saw on ESPN.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mr fantastic View Post
    You do realise that on a fair wheel, the probability of black is the same each spin of the wheel (and is equal to the probability of red), regardless of previous results ......

    The probability of balck does not increase simply because of a previous run on red.

    The odds of making a profit using your system are exactly the same as if you just bet randomly.
    this is not realy true i think since i would say if the chance is 50/50 it is not realy becouse of the 0 but 49.5 or someting doesnt make that much of a different however the chance on getting loads of reds in a row is smaller then getting a black between them so if youve had like 3reds the chance on getting a black then would indeed be bigger but you still might lose then youd have to dubbel youre bet to make profit wich you can still lose again..
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    Quote Originally Posted by 3tyson View Post
    this is not realy true i think since i would say if the chance is 50/50 it is not realy becouse of the 0 but 49.5 or someting doesnt make that much of a different however the chance on getting loads of reds in a row is smaller then getting a black between them so if youve had like 3reds the chance on getting a black then would indeed be bigger but you still might lose then youd have to dubbel youre bet to make profit wich you can still lose again..
    No, just no.

    There is no pattern to the colors, no matter how much you want it to or it looks like it. These kind of irrational, incorrect posts are not what we do here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jameson View Post
    No, just no.

    There is no pattern to the colors, no matter how much you want it to or it looks like it. These kind of irrational, incorrect posts are not what we do here.


    then i ask you have you ever seen a the ball only go for red a whole night ? this would just be IMPOSIBLE so that do means someting however it does not say that it will defenetly fall for the other coller next time but the chance do improve.... however youre right aswel since at the end of the nigth the only winner will be the casino




    this migth be a weird example but lets take a look at this the chances for black/red are axactly the same so they will fall abouth the same times so if you do a 100bets it will fall 49times red 49times black and 2times green just an example i kow this will never happen... but if he has fall red for over 10times in a row now theres quite a big chance it will fall on black now... how ever we cann not proof this with anny maths

    i wont even start about the dubelling thing since you will need no limit tables and a unlimited bank rol to make this work
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