# [SOLVED] Need some &quot;simple&quot; Probabilties/odds in BJ

• Sep 3rd 2007, 05:51 PM
Tony Guido
[SOLVED] Need some &quot;simple&quot; Probabilties/odds in BJ
Where do I find the following info?
1. average number of hands in a 2, 4, 6 and 8 deck shoe of BJ

2. average number of wins versus losses in various shoes per player.

3. Probability formula to determine number of wins or losses given a aset number of hands played. Example:
If you played 50 hands per shoe, and on average you win 24 and loss 26 hands, how do you determine the number of shoes that will have exactly 24 wins and 26 losses, 23 wins/27 losses, 50 wins/0 losses, 0 wins/50 losses, etc, etc.
Please contact me in forum or privately thru site. Thanks.
• Sep 3rd 2007, 08:59 PM
JakeD
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Originally Posted by Tony Guido
Where do I find the following info?
1. average number of hands in a 2, 4, 6 and 8 deck shoe of BJ

2. average number of wins versus losses in various shoes per player.

3. Probability formula to determine number of wins or losses given a aset number of hands played. Example:
If you played 50 hands per shoe, and on average you win 24 and loss 26 hands, how do you determine the number of shoes that will have exactly 24 wins and 26 losses, 23 wins/27 losses, 50 wins/0 losses, 0 wins/50 losses, etc, etc.
Please contact me in forum or privately thru site. Thanks.

How accurate do you want the answers to be? For accurate answers, I think you will need to use blackjack simulation software. Then you will be forced to refine your questions. For example, the average number of hands in a shoe depends on the rules (e.g., whether double after split is allowed), the strategy of the players (basic strategy, card counter, tourist, etc) and the placement of the cut card that controls how deeply that cards are dealt from the shoe. Getting the answer to the average number of hands per shoe requires specifying all these things and then running simulations. Someone may have done this and put it into a book (Arnold Snyder comes to mind), but I doubt in the detail you are asking. You should at least post this question on a blackjack or gambling forum where they are familiar with what simulation results are available.