# Thread: Parabola Ellipse and Hyperbola

1. ## Parabola Ellipse and Hyperbola

How will u classify the following curves in terms of parabola, ellipse or hyperbola?

i) $17x^2+12xy+8y^2-46x-28y+33=0$

ii) $x^2-5xy+y^2+8x-20y+15=0$

2. Originally Posted by varunnayudu
How will u classify the following curves in terms of parabola, ellipse or hyperbola?

i) $17x^2+12xy+8y^2-46x-28y+33=0$

ii) $x^2-5xy+y^2+8x-20y+15=0$
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3. Hello, varunnayudu!

How will u classify the following curves as parabola, ellipse or hyperbola?

$1)\;\;17x^2+12xy+8y^2-46x-28y+33\:=\:0$

$2)\;\;x^2-5xy+y^2+8x-20y+15\:=\:0$
If you are assigned "rotated" conics, you should have been given more information.

We know the curve is rotated due to the appearance of the $xy$-term.

The general quadratic has the form: . $Ax^2 + Bxy + Cy^2 + Dx + Ey + F \;=\;0$

. . It has a "discriminant": . $\Delta \:=\:B^2-4AC$ .
... look familiar?

. . . . . . . . $\begin{array}{|c|c|}\hline \Delta \:=\:0 & \text{parabola} \\ \hline \Delta \:<\:0 & \text{ellipse} \\ \hline \Delta \:>\:0 & \text{hyperbola}\\ \hline \end{array}$

4. ## can u give the answer

i have solved the two eq and got an answer but need to see if its right or wrong ...........Can u give what type of conic do the two eq form

5. ## what do u think.

Originally Posted by Soroban
Hello, varunnayudu!

If you are assigned "rotated" conics, you should have been given more information.

We know the curve is rotated due to the appearance of the $xy$-term.

The general quadratic has the form: . $Ax^2 + Bxy + Cy^2 + Dx + Ey + F \;=\;0$

. . It has a "discriminant": . $\Delta \:=\:B^2-4AC$ . ... look familiar?

. . . . . . . . $\begin{array}{|c|c|}\hline \Delta \:=\:0 & \text{parabola} \\ \hline \Delta \:<\:0 & \text{ellipse} \\ \hline \Delta \:>\:0 & \text{hyperbola}\\ \hline \end{array}$

I have done it this way .Is this right.........

i) $17x^2 \ + \ 12xy \ + \ 8 y^2 \ - \ 46x \ - \ 28y \ + 33 \ = \ 0$

$a \ = \ 17 ; \ b \ = \ 8 ; h \ = \ 6;$

$ab-h^2 \ = \ 136 - 36 = \ 100$

since $ab-h^2 > 0$ therefore the eq is an hyperbola.

ii) $x^2 - 5xy + y^2 + 8x - 20y +15 = 0$

$a=1 ; \ b = 1; \ h = - \frac{5}{2}$

$\therefore \ ab-h^2 = 1 - \frac{25}{4} = \frac{4 - 25}{4} = - \frac{21}{4} \ = -5.25 \ < \ 0$

$\therefore since \ ab-h^2 < 0$ it is an ellipse.