# quick question on product rule and equality rule for logs

• Oct 19th 2011, 11:29 AM
RYdis
quick question on product rule and equality rule for logs
so I have an equation:

ln (2x+1) + ln(x-2) -2lnx = 0

so to be able to use product rule I added the 2lnx and cancelled out for equality rule

ln(2x+1)+ln(x-2) = 2 ln x

then ln((2x+1)(x-2)) = 2 ln x, can cancel out the ln so we have

(2x+1)(x-2) = 2x.

Im little confused on what to do next. Should I foil out the left side then add the right? Think im forgetting a step here to fully solve this. Thanks
• Oct 19th 2011, 12:11 PM
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Re: quick question on product rule and equality rule for logs
Quote:

Originally Posted by RYdis
so I have an equation:

ln (2x+1) + ln(x-2) -2lnx = 0

so to be able to use product rule I added the 2lnx and cancelled out for equality rule

ln(2x+1)+ln(x-2) = 2 ln x

then ln((2x+1)(x-2)) = 2 ln x, can cancel out the ln so we have

(2x+1)(x-2) = 2x.

Im little confused on what to do next. Should I foil out the left side then add the right? Think im forgetting a step here to fully solve this. Thanks

Nope. You cannot simply cancel ln(x) while that 2 is infront of it. Your working is good up to $\displaystyle \ln((2x+1)(x-2)) = 2\ln(x)$

Your next step should be to use the log power rule on the RHS
• Oct 19th 2011, 04:33 PM
RYdis
Re: quick question on product rule and equality rule for logs
Hmm..still having difficulties..guess nit understanding this part on my own
• Oct 19th 2011, 06:19 PM
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Re: quick question on product rule and equality rule for logs
Quote:

Originally Posted by RYdis
so I have an equation:

ln (2x+1) + ln(x-2) -2lnx = 0

so to be able to use product rule I added the 2lnx and cancelled out for equality rule

ln(2x+1)+ln(x-2) = 2 ln x

then ln((2x+1)(x-2)) = 2 ln x, can cancel out the ln so we have

(2x+1)(x-2) = 2x.

Im little confused on what to do next. Should I foil out the left side then add the right? Think im forgetting a step here to fully solve this. Thanks

\displaystyle \displaystyle \begin{align*} \ln{(2x+1)} + \ln{(x - 2)} - 2\ln{(x)} &= 0 \\ \ln{(2x + 1)} + \ln{(x-2)} - \ln{\left(x^2\right)} &= 0 \\ \ln{[(2x+1)(x-2)]} - \ln{\left(x^2\right)} &= 0 \\ \ln{\left[\frac{(2x+1)(x-2)}{x^2}\right]} &= 0 \\ \frac{(2x+1)(x-2)}{x^2} &= e^0 \\ \frac{(2x+1)(x-2)}{x^2} &= 1 \\ (2x+1)(x-2) &= x^2 \end{align*}

Go from here...
• Oct 19th 2011, 06:53 PM
RYdis
Re: quick question on product rule and equality rule for logs
actually had a slight typo in the problem. But here we go

going off what you had this is what we actually see (x-3 not x-2)

(2x+1)(x-3) = x^2..can we divide out the x's?

[(2x+1)(x-2)]/x^2 = [(2+1)(-3)]/x = 0
(2+1)(-3) = x
x=-9?

everything I know tells me this should be wrong..since x^2 usually means we should have two answers.

However I was unsure on how to factor it..
• Oct 19th 2011, 07:08 PM
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Re: quick question on product rule and equality rule for logs
Quote:

Originally Posted by RYdis
actually had a slight typo in the problem. But here we go

going off what you had this is what we actually see (x-3 not x-2)

(2x+1)(x-3) = x^2..can we divide out the x's?

[(2x+1)(x-2)]/x^2 = [(2+1)(-3)]/x = 0
(2+1)(-3) = x
x=-9?

everything I know tells me this should be wrong..since x^2 usually means we should have two answers.

However I was unsure on how to factor it..

Yes you are wrong in thinking you should divide by x^2. Expand the brackets, move everything to one side, and factorise.
• Oct 19th 2011, 07:16 PM
RYdis
Re: quick question on product rule and equality rule for logs
yes I see, so we get

2x^2-6x+x-3 = x^2
2x^2-5x-3 = x^2
2x^2-x^2-5x-3 = x^2-5x-3 = 0

this doesn't factor even so x= +- (5+sqrt(37))/2

trying to relearn this on your own is rather difficult lol :/
• Oct 19th 2011, 07:24 PM
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Re: quick question on product rule and equality rule for logs
Quote:

Originally Posted by RYdis
yes I see, so we get

2x^2-6x+x-3 = x^2
2x^2-5x-3 = x^2
2x^2-x^2-5x-3 = x^2-5x-3 = 0

this doesn't factor even so x= +- (5+sqrt(37))/2

trying to relearn this on your own is rather difficult lol :/

I'm sure you mean $\displaystyle \displaystyle x = \frac{5 \pm \sqrt{37}}{2}$... Which is correct :)
• Oct 19th 2011, 07:29 PM
RYdis
Re: quick question on product rule and equality rule for logs
yes sir. Thank you very much... complicated lol