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    Ahh help. Functions?

    Select the true statement about the graph of f(x) = -2x^3 + 6x^2 + 18x - 18.

    Then I'm given four possible answers

    A. (-1, -31) is a relative minimum and (3, 32) is a relative maximum
    B. (3, 32) is a relative minimum and (-1, -31) is a relative maximum
    C. (-1, -28) is a relative minimum and (3, 36) is a relative maximum
    D. (3,36) is a relative minimum and (-1, -28) is a relative maximum

    I believe it's C. I'm also thinking it could be D, if I got the numbers mixed up.


    and also, this one has me stuck as well. I haven't the slightest clue what it's even asking.

    Which of the following functions is neither odd nor even?
    A. x^9 + 3x^7 + 6x
    B. x^5 + 3x
    C. 6x^2 - (x^2) + 3
    D. x^2 + 3x + 3 + (x - 3)
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    Quote Originally Posted by amandaa View Post
    Select the true statement about the graph of f(x) = -2x^3 + 6x^2 + 18x - 18.

    Then I'm given four possible answers

    A. (-1, -31) is a relative minimum and (3, 32) is a relative maximum
    B. (3, 32) is a relative minimum and (-1, -31) is a relative maximum
    C. (-1, -28) is a relative minimum and (3, 36) is a relative maximum
    D. (3,36) is a relative minimum and (-1, -28) is a relative maximum

    I believe it's C. I'm also thinking it could be D, if I got the numbers mixed up.

    as for this why do u think it's C or D ? when function is max or min ? and you should not have any problem with that if you don't know say but you are on the right track it's correct answer (one of those)


    Quote Originally Posted by amandaa View Post

    Which of the following functions is neither odd nor even?
    A. x^9 + 3x^7 + 6x
    B. x^5 + 3x
    C. 6x^2 - (x^2) + 3
    D. x^2 + 3x + 3 + (x - 3)
    as for this
    odd function is function that satisfy  f(-x) = -f(x) and even function is  f(-x)=f(x) meaning that you need to put (-x) in every place of x in function and see which conditions does it satisfy


    P.S. you need function that does not satisfy any of that two conditions
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    Quote Originally Posted by yeKciM View Post
    as for this why do u think it's C or D ? when function is max or min ? and you should not have any problem with that if you don't know say but you are on the right track it's correct answer (one of those)




    as for this
    odd function is function that satisfy  f(-x) = -f(x) and even function is  f(-x)=f(x) meaning when you put in you function instead of x you put (-x) in places of every x that is there in function, and see which condition does it satisfy


    P.S. you need function that does not satisfy any of that two conditions


    Well when I plug in -1,-28 it fits the equation, and so does 3,36. I do think it's C since -1,-28 makes more sense to be the minimum.

    As for the 2nd question, I already knew what you said, but I don't know how to set it up, or even solve it D:
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    yes it's C that first question .... to test is it min or max use second derivate of function

    as for second ... i'll show you one

    A: f(x)= x^9+3x^7+6x
    f(-x)= (-x)^9+3(-x)^7+6(-x) \Rightarrow f(-x) = -x^9-3x^7-6x = - (x^9+3x^7+6x)= -f(x)

    so it's odd function okay ?


    hint: it's easy to conclude that if (-x) is to power of 2,4,6,8,... it will stay x (when you put (-x) to see ) and if it's to power of 1,3,5,7,... when put (-x) it will stay (-x) ... so if your function have all x at power of 2,4,6,8... it will be even function, but if they are all 1,3,5,7,... it is odd function, so if they are combined than function is neither odd neither even function
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    Thanks!
    Okay so, I still don't understand it lol. I'm so horrible at this. I tried the second one, but I don't think I did it right.

    B: f(x) = x+5+3x
    f(-x) = -x+5+3(-x)
    = -x+5-3x
    =5-3x^2

    I don't think that's right. And if it is, I can't tell if it's odd or not
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    Quote Originally Posted by amandaa View Post
    Select the true statement about the graph of f(x) = -2x^3 + 6x^2 + 18x - 18.

    Then I'm given four possible answers

    A. (-1, -31) is a relative minimum and (3, 32) is a relative maximum
    B. (3, 32) is a relative minimum and (-1, -31) is a relative maximum
    C. (-1, -28) is a relative minimum and (3, 36) is a relative maximum
    D. (3,36) is a relative minimum and (-1, -28) is a relative maximum

    I believe it's C. I'm also thinking it could be D, if I got the numbers mixed up.
    how have you been taught to find extrema of a function?
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    Quote Originally Posted by amandaa View Post
    Thanks!
    Okay so, I still don't understand it lol. I'm so horrible at this. I tried the second one, but I don't think I did it right.

    B: f(x) = x+5+3x
    f(-x) = -x+5+3(-x)
    = -x+5-3x
    =5-3x^2

    I don't think that's right. And if it is, I can't tell if it's odd or not


    let's try this

     f_1(x) = x^2
     f_2(x)=x

    which is odd and which is even ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by skeeter View Post
    how have you been taught to find extrema of a function?
    You know, I honestly don't remember. I haven't taken a math class in awhile, so I'm really struggling with all of this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by yeKciM View Post
    let's try this

     f_1(x) = x^2
     f_2(x)=x

    which is odd and which is even ?
    sorry for double posting! I don't get what you're asking lol, and that made my confusion worse
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    Quote Originally Posted by amandaa View Post
    You know, I honestly don't remember. I haven't taken a math class in awhile, so I'm really struggling with all of this.
    do you know how to find derivation of the function ?


    okay
    let's look at that f_1(x) function to see is it odd or even function we have to put (-x) in place of x, of that function... so:
    f_1(x) = x^2
    f_1(-x) = (-x)^2
    and because it's at the power of 2 is's like (-2)*(-2) = +4 so we have that
    (-x)(-x) = (-x)^2
    so that means that function f(-x) is equal function with f(x)

     f_1(x) = x^2 \; \; f_1(-x) = x^2

    because those two are equal means that function f(x) is even function
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    Quote Originally Posted by yeKciM View Post
    do you know how to find derivation of the function ?
    Nope! I'm not getting any of this, so I'm finished. Thanks for the help though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by amandaa View Post
    Nope! I'm not getting any of this, so I'm finished. Thanks for the help though.
    sorry... i tired maybe it's just me... someone else could probably explain it to you much better
    when doing math it's very important to be persistent, and don't give up easy
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    Quote Originally Posted by yeKciM View Post
    sorry... i tired maybe it's just me... someone else could probably explain it to you much better
    This is in the precalculus section, so it's unlikely (though not impossible) that the poster of the thread knows about derivatives. There are other ways to find extrema. skeeter seemed to be getting at this. However, if amandaa isn't sure what method they were taught, it's very difficult to give appropriate help.
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