# Thread: Is ZERO A Number? -- A proof from the ancient Vedas

1. ## Is ZERO A Number? -- A proof from the ancient Vedas

Is Zero A Number?

We all know that 0 is a number? But the magic lies somewhere else?
1,2...... are all numbers. 1+1 =2 which is again a number, 2+9 = 11 which is again a number, even 2-2=0 which is also a number.
But,
0-0 =0, 0+0 =0, even 0/0=0. That means, zero added, multiplied or subtracted with it results in zero (0), it self, which means it does not result to another number, which is true in the above cases, precisely, <any integer=""> - <any integer=""> = <another integer=""> not the number AGAIN. </another></any></any>
But what if we combine together all the positive numbers with all the negative numbers? We can write this as an equation. At first it seems like if we try to sum all numbers into a single ultimate number; if we sum all the positive numbers with all negative numbers, then the total combination of all in question would sum up to zero, as shown below.
(1 + (-1)) + (2 + (-2)) + (3 + (-3)) +... = 0 + 0 + 0 + ... = 0
Why it is so?

purnam adah, purnam idam purnat purnam udachyate; purnasya purnam adaya purnam evavasisyate

The Upanishad says,Purnam adah: that origin of all things is full;

purnam idam: this entire creation that has come from that origin of all things is also full;

purnat purnam udachyate: from that Full this Full has come;
purnasya purnam adaya: having taken away this Full from that Full;
purnam evavasisyate: the Full still remains unaffected."

Mathematically, <integer> - <integer> = <lesser integer=""> i.e. 2 - 1 = 1.

If we take away infinite from infinite, the Infinite is not reduced in any way, because one cannot take away anything from the Infinite. Therefore, if this so-called infinite of creation is taken to have emanated from that supreme Fullness of Infinity, it need not follow that there is some diminution of content in the original Fullness.

Hence whether you add, subtract, multiply or do whatever with 0 it would result to the same thing as because you cannot take anything away from the infinite.

2. ## Re: Is ZERO A Number? -- A proof from the ancient Vedas

What is this load of bullcrap doing here?

3. ## Re: Is ZERO A Number? -- A proof from the ancient Vedas

Originally Posted by shounakbhatta
Is Zero A Number?

We all know that 0 is a number? But the magic lies somewhere else?
1,2...... are all numbers. 1+1 =2 which is again a number, 2+9 = 11 which is again a number, even 2-2=0 which is also a number.
But,
0-0 =0, 0+0 =0, even 0/0=0. That means, zero added, multiplied or subtracted with it results in zero (0), it self, which means it does not result to another number, which is true in the above cases, precisely, <any integer=""> - <any integer=""> = <another integer=""> not the number AGAIN. </another></any></any>
But what if we combine together all the positive numbers with all the negative numbers? We can write this as an equation. At first it seems like if we try to sum all numbers into a single ultimate number; if we sum all the positive numbers with all negative numbers, then the total combination of all in question would sum up to zero, as shown below.
(1 + (-1)) + (2 + (-2)) + (3 + (-3)) +... = 0 + 0 + 0 + ... = 0
Why it is so?

purnam adah, purnam idam purnat purnam udachyate; purnasya purnam adaya purnam evavasisyate

The Upanishad says,Purnam adah: that origin of all things is full;

purnam idam: this entire creation that has come from that origin of all things is also full;

purnat purnam udachyate: from that Full this Full has come;
purnasya purnam adaya: having taken away this Full from that Full;
purnam evavasisyate: the Full still remains unaffected."

Mathematically, <integer> - <integer> = <lesser integer=""> i.e. 2 - 1 = 1.

If we take away infinite from infinite, the Infinite is not reduced in any way, because one cannot take away anything from the Infinite. Therefore, if this so-called infinite of creation is taken to have emanated from that supreme Fullness of Infinity, it need not follow that there is some diminution of content in the original Fullness.

Hence whether you add, subtract, multiply or do whatever with 0 it would result to the same thing as because you cannot take anything away from the infinite.
This is all irrelevant, that is not how we construct the integers, and hand-waving methods of definition have been obsolete for over one hundred years.

Not a mathematical question so: Thread closed

CB