# Thread: Math classes I will be taking going forward: Upper Division.

1. ## Math classes I will be taking going forward: Upper Division.

Hello,

I started here in the summer of 2015 at a community college in intermediate algebra. Now, I will proudly say at the end of this semester I will be done with Calculus 3 (multivariable calculus), Differential equations, Linear algebra (already took in fall), and physics 1 and 2 Calculus based. I have options to go to Berkeley, UCSD, UCSB, and UCI, etc. But I am staying local and going to UCR because I am 20 minutes away and it would be easier on myself and my family.

But I just wanted to let you guys know what classes I will be taking for upper division .

UCR - B.S. Mathematics degree specialization of applied math with statistics:

Decide between option (1) and (2)

(1):
Math 131 - Linear Algebra
Math 135A, Math 135B- Numerical Analysis 1 and 2.

(2):
Or take these two classes:
Math 149A, Math 149B, Probability and Mathematical Statistics 1 and 2.

(3) required (no option):
Math 149A, Math 149B, Math 149C, Ordinary and Partial Differential Equations 1,2, and 3.

Now my specialization:
Statistics:
(1) Required:
Math 120 - Optimization Techniques.
Stat 160A, Stat 160B, Stat 160C- Elements of probability and Statistical Theory 1,2, and 3.

(2) Optional (pick one class):
Stat 130 - Sample Surveys
or
Stat 146 - Statistical Forecasting Techniques.

(3) Required:
Stat 161 - Introduction to Probability Methods
Stat 170A - Regression Analysis
Stat 170B - Design of Experiments
Stat 171 - General Statistical Models.

2. ## Re: Math classes I will be taking going forward: Upper Division.

Hey math951.

What sort of things are you trying to aim towards? What sort of understanding are you looking for?

3. ## Re: Math classes I will be taking going forward: Upper Division.

Hi Chiro,

I enjoy math and logical reasoning. I don't enjoy physics as much. I just like doing problems and solving them -- it is a nice feeling. Career wise, I would like to be an analyst of some sort, perhaps a teacher also if possible .

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If you want to analyze something you need to be able to chop things up and know the information in each thing you chop up.

Statistics looks at understanding information since you have a sample and want to extract something common to that sample.

Information also comes in chunks which means that discrete mathematics and some computing is useful for knowing how and why to chop things up in a specific way.

If you want to be an analyst then you need to chop things up in a way relevant to the thing you are analyzing. This means you take additional courses in the area of interest [finance, economics, physics, whatever] and think about what the information is and how to chop up and bring together things to get it.

As for solving problems, every area of mathematics and statistics gets you to do that. The difference is what you chop up and why and what you are looking for.

As for teaching, high school means you need to take things and make them simple to follow [far simpler than you would think]. University is obviously different.

In terms of logical reasoning, you will need to be able to take lots of non-mathematical information and make sense of how to combine them in a way where you can do so for a matrix [linear system] or set of relations. That intuition is gained by working in a particular field and thinking about it mathematically.

5. ## Re: Math classes I will be taking going forward: Upper Division.

Originally Posted by chiro
If you want to analyze something you need to be able to chop things up and know the information in each thing you chop up.

Statistics looks at understanding information since you have a sample and want to extract something common to that sample.

Information also comes in chunks which means that discrete mathematics and some computing is useful for knowing how and why to chop things up in a specific way.

If you want to be an analyst then you need to chop things up in a way relevant to the thing you are analyzing. This means you take additional courses in the area of interest [finance, economics, physics, whatever] and think about what the information is and how to chop up and bring together things to get it.

As for solving problems, every area of mathematics and statistics gets you to do that. The difference is what you chop up and why and what you are looking for.

As for teaching, high school means you need to take things and make them simple to follow [far simpler than you would think]. University is obviously different.

In terms of logical reasoning, you will need to be able to take lots of non-mathematical information and make sense of how to combine them in a way where you can do so for a matrix [linear system] or set of relations. That intuition is gained by working in a particular field and thinking about it mathematically.
Hello,

UCR has a minor in finance that I was interested in.

They also have an applied mathematics general option or computational option, or even an economics option.

6. ## Re: Math classes I will be taking going forward: Upper Division.

For mathematical finance statistics needs to be understood before being applied.

Statistics is about making decisions under uncertainty with information so if you get the decisions being made, the uncertainty involved with the system you deal with and how the inference is being made in both a general context and a context of finance, then that will be quite useful.

Since finance is an applied discipline, then anything involving computation, numerical analysis, analyzing things that are "fuzzy" [and converting things from poorly defined parameters and relationships to something with specificity that you can model] along with non-mathematical understanding is necessary.

I would also recommend asking about finding out what they do in an actual job since you might get in and find out that you don't like the culture, or can't put the mathematical pieces together with the non-mathematical pieces [finance is not as easy as you think when breaking down information and making sense of it] and think about why you want say finance over some kind of general applied math degree.

Anything applied requires two languages - the area of application and mathematics. The ability to tell someone that p = 0.7 will lead to default in some shares is not easy and it highlights how you can't just take a mathematical model and say - that's what I get even though I can't put it into perspective.

The more mathematics courses you do, the better your ability to "chop up" information, glue it together, combine it, and find an answer - but the more you do things outside mathematics [like talk to people about finance, read non-mathematical articles, and know what finance is and not what equations are described] the better you will be at applied mathematics [and hence something like finance].

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Thanks for your reply, Chiro. To give you some background about me: I am a student who lives in a nice area, but I live with my grandmother and my father. I do not have time to complete a Ph.D because I need to get a job to earn money so I can support myself. I definitely will have time to get a graduate degree. But I just do not know where to go from here. I will be a junior come this fall, and I will only have 2 years until I go to the real world to find a job, or go to graduate school.

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Hey chiro,

I got a 95 percent on 1st exam in Multivariable calc. Test was on vectors, cross product, dot product, equations of planes, parametric equations, quadric surfaces, and converting rectangular to spherical and cylindrical coordinates.

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Funny because when I think of calculus I think of derivatives and integration. We did not even do really any calculus on this exam lol.

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What sort of occupation gets your fancy?

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I like numbers, quant, analyst-type jobs, or atleast I think I would. I enjoy logical reasoning very much, and solving problems. The thrill of solving a problem is like none other to me.

P.S. I am applying for REU's (Research Undergrad experiences) this summer for math; if I get accepted it could be at any university, and it would be myself and other students helping take part in research for math.