# Thread: How long does it take to become really good?

1. ## How long does it take to become really good?

I've decided I want to take my maths to the next level. I don't want to be the average bear. I want to be the best of the best. Asking for help, in my eyes, is a weakness.

How many hours does it take to become first-class?

All of them

3. ## Re: How long does it take to become really good?

Are we discussing hours per day here?

My endurance is 3 hours on, 1 hour off. 3 hours on, 1 hour off. If I'm able to, another 3 hours on, and that's it I'm fried.

4. ## Re: How long does it take to become really good?

There is no formula for the amount of time required to be the best. Put in as much time as you need. Keep a work-life balance to keep from burning out. It helps to have a good work ethic, of course. But other factors certainly come into play, such as genetics.

Personally, it depends on what I'm working on. When I was younger, I would get so caught up in problems that fascinated me that I might stay up for 48 to 72 hours straight, barely even stopping to eat. Once I finished the problem, I'd crash for two days straight.

I can't do that any more, though.

5. ## Re: How long does it take to become really good?

Originally Posted by PilgrimsPath
I've decided I want to take my maths to the next level. I don't want to be the average bear. I want to be the best of the best. Asking for help, in my eyes, is a weakness.
How many hours does it take to become first-class?
To accomplish what you have described means that you need to have the PhD from one of the OxBridge group, or from the LSE, Manchester. or Leeds. The average length of study is six years post graduate. If you have a first class BA then you can possibly shorten that in a Canadian or a U.S. University.

6. ## Re: How long does it take to become really good?

"Asking for help, in my eyes, is a weakness. "

No, it is not. Refusing to ask for help, when you have difficulty, is a weakness. Knowing whenyou have a valid difficulty and should ask for help is important.

8. ## Re: How long does it take to become really good?

Do you think I depend on others to achieve my goals?

I'm self-made, self-taught and I will never ever accept a handout.

9. ## Re: How long does it take to become really good?

What does one need to do in order to gain a PhD? Presumably self-study?

So if I self educate myself for long enough I could be a self-defined PhD without the paperwork?

10. ## Re: How long does it take to become really good?

Yes, asking for help is a weakness. It trains you to become stronger in unknown territory when help isn't available.

11. ## Re: How long does it take to become really good?

Originally Posted by PilgrimsPath
Yes, asking for help is a weakness. It trains you to become stronger in unknown territory when help isn't available.
Asking for advice on a math help forum ... oh, the irony.

12. ## Re: How long does it take to become really good?

After the "drop the mic(rophone)" comment was made in post # 11 showing
how irrational, argumentative, and trolling-like the responses of the
original poster have become, would a moderator please CLOSE this

13. ## Re: How long does it take to become really good?

Originally Posted by PilgrimsPath
Yes, asking for help is a weakness.
Well, did you tell your math teacher(s) to go to hell
because they were helping you?
Or the author(s) of your math book(s)?

14. ## Re: How long does it take to become really good?

Originally Posted by PilgrimsPath
What does one need to do in order to gain a PhD? Presumably self-study?
So if I self educate myself for long enough I could be a self-defined PhD without the paperwork?
The answer is yes. But you need to have at least three major publications or one good book.
But be warned, if you try self-publishing then you will have made a laughing stooge out of yourself.

15. ## Re: How long does it take to become really good?

Originally Posted by PilgrimsPath
Do you think I depend on others to achieve my goals?
I'm self-made, self-taught and I will never ever accept a handout.
Of the highly-skilled mathematicians that I have known, they all have had many things in common: one of them is simple humility.
One of my favourite quotes is from Clint Eastwood:
"A man's got to know his limitations!"
No-one is perfect; no-one is "right" 100% of the time; to err is human: to be perfect is divine.

Good luck in all your ventures. Try hard; play hard; have fun. But don't overdo anything and put yourself into an early grave.

Al.

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