# Thread: Very unusual problem - any help highly appreciated

1. ## Very unusual problem - any help highly appreciated

Suppose there is a stock (Stock A) and an index (Index A).

Stock A's price=$150 Index A's level=2450 The current ratio of Stock A/Index A Level = 150/2450 = 0.06122 Now supposing you look on the historic ratio chart and think that the ratio will increase from the current 0.06122 to say 0.07500 (ie you think stock A will outperform the index). Just from knowing the expected ratio (0.07500) and the current ratio level (0.06122), would it be possible to calculate by how much % stock A outperformed the index by ? Thanks a lot for all your help. 2. Originally Posted by gillchandler1 Suppose there is a stock (Stock A) and an index (Index A). Stock A's price=$150
Index A's level=2450

The current ratio of Stock A/Index A Level = 150/2450 = 0.06122

Now supposing you look on the historic ratio chart and think that the ratio will increase from the current 0.06122 to say 0.07500 (ie you think stock A will outperform the index).

Just from knowing the expected ratio (0.07500) and the current ratio level (0.06122), would it be possible to calculate by how much % stock A outperformed the index by ?

Thanks a lot for all your help.

Right now you have A(0)/I(0)= .06122 and you believe that at some time in the future, A(t)/I(t) will be 0.07500. That tells you that (A(t)/I(t)) divided by A(0)/I(0) will be [tex]\frac{A(t)/I(t)}{A(0)/I(0)}= \frac{A(t)}{A(0)}{I(0)/I(t)}= .07500/.06122= 1.225. If we think of A= A(t)/A(0) as measuring how well A has "performed" and I= I(t)/I(0) as measuring how well the index has "performed", then we have A/I= 1.225 so we could say that, in some sense, A has "outperformed" the index by 22.5%. I'm not sure that is a useful "sense".

3. Hello gillchandler1

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Originally Posted by gillchandler1
Suppose there is a stock (Stock A) and an index (Index A).

Stock A's price=$150 Index A's level=2450 The current ratio of Stock A/Index A Level = 150/2450 = 0.06122 Now supposing you look on the historic ratio chart and think that the ratio will increase from the current 0.06122 to say 0.07500 (ie you think stock A will outperform the index). Just from knowing the expected ratio (0.07500) and the current ratio level (0.06122), would it be possible to calculate by how much % stock A outperformed the index by ? Thanks a lot for all your help. The answer is that there isn't a fixed percentage difference, but you can calculate one if you know the other. Suppose that the stock is originally valued at$ $S$ and increases by $s$%; and the index, valued at \$ $I$, increases by $i$%. Then the values will increase by factors of $\left(1+\frac{s}{100}\right)$ and $\left(1+\frac{i}{100}\right)$ respectively. The ratio of the new values will then be
$\frac{\left(1+\dfrac{s}{100}\right)S}{\left(1+\dfr ac{i}{100}\right)I}=\left(\frac{100+s}{100+i}\righ t)\left(\frac{S}{I}\right)$
So if the original ratio, $\frac{S}{I}$, was $0.06122$, and the new one is $0.075$, we have
$\left(\frac{100+s}{100+i}\right)\left(0.06122\righ t)=0.075$

$\Rightarrow \left(\frac{100+s}{100+i}\right)=\frac{0.075}{0.06 122}=1.225$
Re-arranging this equation gives:
$s=1.225i+22.5$
which will give the value of $s$ for a given value of $i$, enabling a comparison to be made. For example:
If $i = 0$ (i.e. the index does not rise, $s = 22.5$; i.e the stock rises by $22.5$%.

If $i = 5$ (i.e. the index rises by $5$%), $s = 28.625$; the stock rises by $28.625$%, outperforming the index by $23.625$%.

... and so on.