I give you a bigrade:

Now give me ab + ac + bc = de + df + ef (please show all work) and find values for a - f that makes the equation work.

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- December 28th 2009, 09:52 AMwonderboy1953Here's a problem
I give you a bigrade:

Now give me ab + ac + bc = de + df + ef (please show all work) and find values for a - f that makes the equation work. - December 28th 2009, 09:26 PMCaptainBlack
- December 28th 2009, 10:45 PMsimplependulum
- December 29th 2009, 09:10 AMwonderboy1953Response to Captain Black
Of course I know how to solve this problem, otherwise I wouldn't have posted it here (I didn't want to immediately post the solution as that would have given away the show).

simplependulum got the answer right. I would have squared both sides and then use simple algebra to derive the end result to show that it follows naturally - the same difference, but I think my way would be more understandable. Now for the next part (which I know how to do):

Starting from:

http://www.mathhelpforum.com/math-he...ae3726ca-1.gif, can you show through adding 1 to each and every member of this bigrade that you still have equality? [the first step is to derive ] - December 29th 2009, 09:24 AMwonderboy1953BTW
Here are one set of values (among the infinite) that make the bigrade work: a = 1, b = 6, c = 8, d = 2, e = 4 and f = 9. The reason why it's important to specify is you have can doubters (like Kronecker) who say that nothing is proven unless you can show everything.

- January 3rd 2010, 12:00 PMwonderboy1953Solving the puzzle
I left it to be proven that:

http://www.mathhelpforum.com/math-he...f27e0ade-1.gif

reduces to:

http://www.mathhelpforum.com/math-he...ae3726ca-1.gif

Opening parentheses, you get:

Now rearranging terms and combining some:

Obviously the 3 cancels out. Also, by assumption, since this is a bigrade,

a + b + c = d + e + f also cancels out from the equation (with the coefficient 2) which leaves you with:

which is true by assumption. Here's my main point: with any multigrade, you can add any positive integer (to each and every term) and get a new multigrade, no exceptions.