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    1. In square SQUA, the lengths of diagonal QA is 24 cm. In rhombus RHOM the length of diagonal MH is 24 cm and the measure of angle RHO = 60. Which quadrilateral has the greater perimeter? Show all the work to support your conclusion.

    I'm taking an online geometry class right now and I having a really hard time understanding it. If someone could please explain to me how to solve this problem, that would be great!

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    Quote Originally Posted by sunshii17 View Post
    1. In square SQUA, the lengths of diagonal QA is 24 cm. In rhombus RHOM the length of diagonal MH is 24 cm and the measure of angle RHO = 60. Which quadrilateral has the greater perimeter? Show all the work to support your conclusion.
    If x is the side pf the square and d is the diagonal, using Pythagoras theorem, you can write 2*x^2 = d^2. D is given, Find x and perimeter which is 4x.

    In the rhombus let o be the point of intersection of diagonals. In triangle RHO angle RHO = 30 degrees. If x is the side of the rhombus, OH = x*cos30. OH is given. Find x and perimeter which is again 4x.
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    Perimeter of square and rhombus

    Hello sunshii17

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    Quote Originally Posted by sunshii17 View Post
    1. In square SQUA, the lengths of diagonal QA is 24 cm. In rhombus RHOM the length of diagonal MH is 24 cm and the measure of angle RHO = 60. Which quadrilateral has the greater perimeter? Show all the work to support your conclusion.

    I'm taking an online geometry class right now and I having a really hard time understanding it. If someone could please explain to me how to solve this problem, that would be great!

    Thanks
    You don't need to do detailed calculations; all you need to know is a little about cosines.

    Draw the two diagrams carefully, joining the diagonals in each case. Suppose the diagonals in each diagram meet at the point X.

    Then (since the diagonals of a rhombus meet at right angles), all the angles in each diagram at X are right angles, and so each figure - the square and the rhombus - consists of four identical right-angled triangles. In the case of the square, the other angles in one of the triangles (for instance, \triangle SQX) are each 45^o. In the case of the rhombus the other angles in one of the triangles (for instance, \triangle RHX) are \angle H=30^o and \angle R = 60^o.

    So for the rhombus, we have:

    \cos 30^o = \frac{XH}{RH} \Rightarrow RH = \frac{12}{\cos 30^o}

    And for the square:

    \cos 45^o = \frac{XQ}{SQ}\Rightarrow SQ =\frac{12}{\cos 45^o}

    Now \cos 30^o > \cos 45^o and so RH < SQ. This is because, when you calculate RH, you divide the 12 by a larger number than when you calculate SQ.

    So the perimeter of the rhombus ( = 4\,RH) is less than the perimeter of the square ( = 4\,SQ).

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    very instructive solution, that's what helps a lot!
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    Thanks for explaining this problem to me! I actually understand it now because your explanation was so detailed
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