Find the equation and comman chord of a circle

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May 3rd 2009, 10:31 PM
zorro

Find the equation and comman chord of a circle

Find the equation and length of common chord of the circle
$ 2x^2 + 2y^2 + 7x -5y + 2 = 0 $ and $ x^2 + y^2 - 4x + 8y - 18 =0 $
May 5th 2009, 10:37 AM
VonNemo19

First, solve for y in each of the equations. Start by moving all x terms and constants to the right side

$2y^2-5y=-2x^2-7x-2$

complete the square
divide by the coefficient of the quadratic term

$(y-\frac{5}{4})^2=-x^2-\frac{7}{2}x-1+\frac{25}{16}$

taking the root and adding

$y=\pm{\sqrt{-2x^2-\frac{7}{2}x-1+\frac{25}{16}}}+\frac{5}{4}$

Do the same with the other equation and solve the system.
May 5th 2009, 12:45 PM
Opalg

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Originally Posted by zorro

Find the equation and length of common chord of the circle
$ 2x^2 + 2y^2 + 7x -5y + 2 = 0 $ and $ x^2 + y^2 - 4x + 8y - 18 =0 $

Something wrong here. Those two circles don't intersect at all, so how can they have a common chord? (The centres of the circles are at (2,–4) and $\bigl(-\tfrac74,\tfrac54\bigr)$ . The distance between these points is about 6.86. This is a lot more than the sum of the two radii, which are $\sqrt2$ and $\sqrt{58}/4$ , both of them less than 2.)

Edit. Oops! First radius is $\sqrt{38}$ , not $\sqrt2$ . Thanks to skeeter for spotting that.
May 5th 2009, 03:18 PM
skeeter

uhh ... the two circles do intersect.
May 5th 2009, 03:26 PM
skeeter

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Originally Posted by zorro

Find the equation and length of common chord of the circle
$ 2x^2 + 2y^2 + 7x -5y + 2 = 0 $ and $ x^2 + y^2 - 4x + 8y - 18 =0 $

$2x^2 + 2y^2 + 7x -5y + 2 = 0$

$-2(x^2 + y^2 - 4x + 8y - 18 =0)$

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$15x - 21y + 38 = 0$

linear equation is the equation of the chord
December 27th 2009, 11:51 PM
zorro

what about the length of the chord ????
December 28th 2009, 03:24 AM
HallsofIvy

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Originally Posted by zorro

what about the length of the chord ????

You know the equation of the chord and so can find the points where that chord intersects either of the circles (it intersects both circles in the same points, of course). Find the distance between those two points.