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    Projection Vectors Problem

    The angle between two vectors a and b is ∅, where ∅≠90. Under what conditions will |Projab|2 + |Projba|2 = 1?

    Don't really know where to start on this one.
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    Re: Projection Vectors Problem

    Quote Originally Posted by anonymoususer20 View Post
    The angle between two vectors a and b is ∅, where ∅≠90. Under what conditions will |Projab|2 + |Projba|2 = 1?

    Don't really know where to start on this one.
    Hi anonymoususer20!

    I'm not entirely sure what you mean with Projab.
    Presumably it is:

    \text{Proj}_{ab} = \mathbf a \cdot \hat{\mathbf b}

    where \hat{\mathbf b} is the unit vector in the direction of \mathbf b.

    If that is the case you can substitute \mathbf a \cdot \hat{\mathbf b} = a \cos \phi.
    And you can substitute something similar for the other projection.

    Have you tried that?
    If so, what did you get?
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    Re: Projection Vectors Problem

    Projab is a projection vector.

    |Pab|= |a.b|/|b|.
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    Re: Projection Vectors Problem

    Quote Originally Posted by anonymoususer20 View Post
    Projab is a projection vector.

    |Pab|= |a.b|/|b|.
    Aha! Then it is exactly what I suspected, since \mathbf{\hat b} = \frac{\mathbf b}{|\mathbf b|} = \frac{\mathbf b}{b}.
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    Re: Projection Vectors Problem

    Quote Originally Posted by anonymoususer20 View Post
    Projab is a projection vector.

    |Pab|= |a.b|/|b|.

    Quote Originally Posted by ILikeSerena View Post
    Aha! Then it is exactly what I suspected, since \mathbf{\hat b} = \frac{\mathbf b}{|\mathbf b|} = \frac{\mathbf b}{b}.

    There seems to be somewhat of confusion on notation here.
    I have never seen the notation \text{Proj}_{ab}.
    In North American text books \text{Proj}_{\vec{b}}\;\vec{a}=\frac{\vec{a}\cdot \vec{b}}{\vec{b}\cdot\vec{b}}\;\vec{b}{

    If we use that definition then \left\|\frac{\vec{a}\cdot \vec{b}}{\vec{b}\cdot\vec{b}}\;\vec{b}\right\|^2=|  \vec{a}\cdot\vec{b}|^2

    Now that makes a really interesting question.
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    Re: Projection Vectors Problem

    Quote Originally Posted by Plato View Post
    There seems to be somewhat of confusion on notation here.
    I have never seen the notation \text{Proj}_{ab}.
    In North American text books \text{Proj}_{\vec{b}}\;\vec{a}=\frac{\vec{a}\cdot \vec{b}}{\vec{b}\cdot\vec{b}}\;\vec{b}{

    If we use that definition then \left\|\frac{\vec{a}\cdot \vec{b}}{\vec{b}\cdot\vec{b}}\;\vec{b}\right\|^2=|  \vec{a}\cdot\vec{b}|^2

    Now that makes a really interesting question.
    That does make more sense and is probably what it means.
    I didn't think to include the direction.

    However, \left\|\frac {\vec{a}\cdot \vec{b}}{\vec{b}\cdot\vec{b}}\;\vec{b} \right\|^2 = \frac{|\vec{a}\cdot\vec{b}|^2}{|\vec{b}|^2} = (a \cos \phi)^2
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    Re: Projection Vectors Problem

    Quote Originally Posted by ILikeSerena View Post
    That does make more sense and is probably what it means.
    I didn't think to include the direction.
    However, \left\|\frac {\vec{a}\cdot \vec{b}}{\vec{b}\cdot\vec{b}}\;\vec{b} \right\|^2 = \frac{|\vec{a}\cdot\vec{b}|^2}{|\vec{b}|^2} = (a \cos \phi)^2
    Actually no, it equals \left\|\frac {\vec{a}\cdot \vec{b}}{\vec{b}\cdot\vec{b}}\;\vec{b} \right\|^2 =|{\vec{a}\cdot \vec{b}|^2.

    So we get |{\vec{a}\cdot \vec{b}|^2=\frac{1}{2}
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    Re: Projection Vectors Problem

    \left\|\frac {\vec{a}\cdot \vec{b}}{\vec{b}\cdot\vec{b}}\;\vec{b} \right\|^2 = \frac{|\vec a \cdot \vec b|^2} {|\vec{b}\cdot\vec{b}|^2} ||\vec b||^2 = \frac{|\vec a \cdot \vec b|^2} {||\vec{b}||^4} ||\vec b||^2 = \frac{|\vec a \cdot \vec b|^2} {||\vec{b}||^2}
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