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    Reflection in a line

    Couldn't find much useful on the net for this so I'll ask here.
    If you're given a question such as find the reflection of a point (12, 1) in the line y=7x, how would you go about this?
    I think there's a way using some trig to measure how far the point is away from the line and then using that some how but not really sure how to go about it or if it will work.
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    Quote Originally Posted by alexgeek View Post
    Couldn't find much useful on the net for this so I'll ask here.
    If you're given a question such as find the reflection of a point (12, 1) in the line y=7x, how would you go about this?
    I think there's a way using some trig to measure how far the point is away from the line and then using that some how but not really sure how to go about it or if it will work.
    Thanks
    to find symmetrical point on the line, you should first do distance of that point on the line ....

    if your line is :

     \displaystyle \frac {x-x_1}{m} = \frac {y-y_1}{n}=\frac {z-z_1}{p}

    and you have some point at  A_2 (x_2 ,y_2 , z_2)

    to find distance between line  l and point  A_2 you can do like this (or you can use formula, but let's do it like this so you understand what and how is done)

    Let's first mark one point at the line as  A_1 (x_1, y_1, z_1) and on start of the line vector  \vec {q} = (m,n,q) we put that point  A_1 (now look at the picture shown, than continue)

    distance d from the point  A_2 and line  l is equal to ratio of surface of the parallelogram constructed on vectors  \vec{q} and  \vec {A_1 A_2} and intensity of the vector  \vec {q}

    as shown :


    \displaystyle d= \frac {|\vec{q} \times  \vec {A_1 A_2 }|}{|\vec {q}| }

    or in scalar form

     \displaystyle d = \frac {\sqrt{ \begin{vmatrix}<br />
y_1-y_2 &z_1-z_2 \\ <br />
n & p<br />
\end{vmatrix}^2  + \begin{vmatrix}<br />
x_1-x_2 &z_1-z_2 \\ <br />
m & p<br />
\end{vmatrix}^2  +\begin{vmatrix}<br />
x_1-x_2 &y_1-y_2 \\ <br />
m & n<br />
\end{vmatrix}^2 }}{\sqrt{m^2+n^2+p^2}}


    can you figure the rest ? i'll go now bye
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    Think I found what I need using the matrix  \begin{pmatrix} \cos 2 \theta & \sin 2 \theta \\ \sin 2 \theta & - \cos 2 \theta \end{pmatrix} to reflect a point in the line y=(tan \theta)x

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    Sorry seemed to post at the same time as you, I'm just reading your post now.

    -edit 2-
    Ok, brains stopped working now.. too much maths for one day. Have a look at that again tomorrow ha
    Thanks!
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    Hello, alexgeek!

    \text{Find the reflection of a point }(12, 1)\text{ in the line }y\,=\,7x
    Code:
          |
    Q     |
    o     |         / y = 7x
       *  |        /
          *       /
          |  *  M/
          |     o
          |    /   *
          |   /       *
          |  /           *
          | /               o (12,1)
          |/                P 
    - - - + - - - - - - - - - - - - 
          |

    We want a line perpendicular to y \,=\,7x. .[1]

    This line has slope \text{-}\frac{1}{7} and contains (12,1).

    . . Its equation is: . y -1 \:=\:\text{-}\frac{1}{7}(x-12) \quad\Rightarrow\quad y \:=\:\text{-}\frac{1}{7}x + \frac{19}{7} .[2]


    M is the intersection of [1] and [2].

    . . 7x \:=\:\text{-}\frac{1}{7}x + \frac{19}{7} \quad\Rightarrow\quad 7x + \frac{1}{7}x \:=\:\frac{19}{7} \quad\Rightarrow\quad \frac{50}{7}x \:=\:\frac{19}{7}

    . . x \:=\:\frac{19}{50} \quad\Rightarrow\quad y \:=\:\frac{133}{50}


    Point M is \left(\dfrac{19}{50},\:\dfrac{133}{50}\right)


    Let point Q be (x,y)
    Note that M is the midpoint of PQ.

    So we have: . \begin{Bmatrix}\dfrac{x+12}{2} &=& \dfrac{19}{50} \\ \\[-3mm] \dfrac{y+1}{2} &=& \dfrac{133}{50} \end{Bmatrix}

    Solve the two equations: . x \,=\,\text{-}\dfrac{281}{25},\;y \,=\,\dfrac{108}{25}


    Therefore: . Q\left(\text{-}\dfrac{281}{25},\;\dfrac{108}{25}\right)

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