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    Show that lines are parallel

    Hello ,

    a random point Q was chosen on side AC of triangle ABC. Point P is the center of side BC. Segments AP and  BQ meet at T. Point R is the center of segment AT, while point S lies on BT and BS=QT. Show that PS is parallel to QR.

    It's gotten too complicated for me. I'm hoping for your kind help.
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    shoe that lines are parallel

    Quote Originally Posted by atreyyu View Post
    Hello ,

    a random point Q was chosen on side AC of triangle ABC. Point P is the center of side BC. Segments AP and  BQ meet at T. Point R is the center of AT, while point S belongs to BT and BS=QT. Show that PS||QR.

    It's gotten too complicated for me. I'm hoping for your kind help.
    Hello atreyyu
    Your problem is not clear.Suggest you post it exactly as given to you or copied from a book.



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    That's exactly how it was given in the book. What precisely is unclear?
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    Quote Originally Posted by atreyyu View Post
    That's exactly how it was given in the book. What precisely is unclear?
    Hello again atreyyu,

    What does S belongs to BT mean? If i assume it means that S is the midpoint of BT I would say that PS is not parallel to QR.


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    Quote Originally Posted by bjhopper View Post
    Hello again atreyyu,

    What does S belongs to BT mean? If i assume it means that S is the midpoint of BT I would say that PS is not parallel to QR.


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    It means S is a point that was chosen on BQ such that the condition QT=BS is fulfilled.
    Yeah, it's tough on me too
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    I have checked by using coordinates and it works
    There must be a geometrical solution however
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    Quote Originally Posted by atreyyu View Post
    It means S is a point that was chosen on BQ such that the condition QT=BS is fulfilled.
    Yeah, it's tough on me too
    sorry Iwas not reading the problem correctly. Ihave tried drawing a few triangles meeting the givens and have not been able to draw one that appears to show PS parallel to QR particularly when the lines are extended. I have not been able to come up with a proof.


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    I did it in GeoNEXT, it's working hands down:

    But then, the proof... being geometry-impaired, none of the methods I tried works...
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    OK I have found a geometrical proof (la nuit porte conseil ! )

    Here is a hint : consider point V defined as :
    - V lies on (AP)
    - (BV) is parallel to (AC)

    Second hint : use Thalès theorem and its reciprocal

    I can post my solution if you do not find
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    Eh, sorry. I drew it, but I still don't see it. I could use your further explanation
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    Quote Originally Posted by atreyyu View Post
    Hello ,

    a random point Q was chosen on side AC of triangle ABC. Point P is the center of side BC. Segments AP and  BQ meet at T. Point R is the center of segment AT, while point S lies on BT and BS=QT. Show that PS is parallel to QR.

    It's gotten too complicated for me. I'm hoping for your kind help.
    Here's a possible geometric starting point,
    working from the symmetry and utilising the fact that the midpoint
    of two sides is chosen, causing the small triangles to be congruent.

    The lines being parallel causes |BS|=|QT|.
    The converse is then true.

    The third side of the triangle can then be added
    (left out for clarity).
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    Here we go

    Let V defined by
    - V lies on (AP)
    - (BV) is parallel to (AC)




    To prove that (QR) and (PS) are parallel we need to show that

    \frac{TS}{TQ} = \frac{TP}{TR} (reciprocal of Thalès theorem)

    \frac{TS}{TQ} = \frac{TB-BS}{TQ}

    \frac{TS}{TQ} = \frac{TB-TQ}{TQ} (since BS = TQ)

    \frac{TS}{TQ} = \frac{TB}{TQ} - 1

    \frac{TS}{TQ} = \frac{TV}{TA} - 1 (using Thalès theorem)

    \frac{TS}{TQ} = \frac{TP+PV}{TA} - 1

    \frac{TS}{TQ} = \frac{TP+\frac{PB}{PC}PA}{TA} - 1 (using Thalès theorem)

    \frac{TS}{TQ} = \frac{TP+PA}{TA} - 1 (since PB = PC)

    \frac{TS}{TQ} = \frac{TP+TP+TA}{TA} - 1

    \frac{TS}{TQ} = \frac{2TP}{TA}

    \frac{TS}{TQ} = \frac{2TP}{2TR} (since R is the midpoint of [AT]

    \frac{TS}{TQ} = \frac{TP}{TR}
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    Too canny. Thank you guys
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