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    Are you contradicting yourself? You cited Einstein as an example of "mathematicians" who founded "math something" that can be used. Then, again you said Einstein is not mathematician. Are you, uh, trying to bluff your way out of this trap?
    No. I said that DG is one of those subjects you will think is useless. However, somebody found an application to it, i.e. Einstein.

    Yeah?
    This Forum exist. You believe that?
    In this Forum there are a lot of Calculus questions. You answered some of them.
    You consider yourself a "mathematician", so how do we see that?
    "You just answered Calculus questions, but you did not "use" Calculus."
    Or, " Your are not a mathematician because you are using Calculus in answering some questions here."
    The forum also has physics questions, does not mean they are math questions. The Calculus sequence course (I,II,III) is a basic course anyone who is going into science related stuff must be familar with. But mathemations do not use it. They do not use the same Caluculus that is taught in the I,II,III sequence. They use an analogue (something related to it) called Analysis. It is extremely similar to Calculus, but it is much more detailed, as mentioned, what mathemations need. The reason why Calculus is not used is because it is informal and intuitive.

    I do not despise Advanced Math in the same way I do not despise Greek, Chinese, Afghan languages.
    But you do not know it. You do not know what it is about. You do not see how it can be used.

    Is that so? And who said that? Your kind of "mathematicians"?
    As mentioned there is only one kind of mathemations, i.e. those that think like me (except maybe rare exceptions). However, you will not find a single mathemation who thinks like you think. I gave you many many examples of what I said. However, you did not give one. Give an example of a mathemation from the modern era who said that anything beyond Calculus is useless.

    In some of the free IQ tests in the Internet, I was called a "mathematician" of some sorts after my answers were evaluated. I have not proven any theorem, so the group behind those IQ tests are lying?
    I also took them, they seem accurate. But that does not mean you are a mathemtion, it is saying you analyze stuff like mathemations do, and hence are cabable of understanding it better than regular people. In a sense it is saying you can purse math.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ThePerfectHacker View Post
    No. I said that DG is one of those subjects you will think is useless. However, somebody found an application to it, i.e. Einstein.


    The forum also has physics questions, does not mean they are math questions. The Calculus sequence course (I,II,III) is a basic course anyone who is going into science related stuff must be familar with. But mathemations do not use it. They do not use the same Caluculus that is taught in the I,II,III sequence. They use an analogue (something related to it) called Analysis. It is extremely similar to Calculus, but it is much more detailed, as mentioned, what mathemations need. The reason why Calculus is not used is because it is informal and intuitive.


    But you do not know it. You do not know what it is about. You do not see how it can be used.


    As mentioned there is only one kind of mathemations, i.e. those that think like me (except maybe rare exceptions). However, you will not find a single mathemation who thinks like you think. I gave you many many examples of what I said. However, you did not give one. Give an example of a mathemation from the modern era who said that anything beyond Calculus is useless.


    I also took them, they seem accurate. But that does not mean you are a mathemtion, it is saying you analyze stuff like mathemations do, and hence are cabable of understanding it better than regular people. In a sense it is saying you can purse math.
    To avoid getting some of your, and captain black's, "tickets", I will refrain from replying the way I want to reply here. It is unfair.
    So, no, I am a mathematician! Wheteher you two like it or not.

    Oh, do I know your kind of Math? I have not studied it because I chose the useful Math instead. If I studied your kind of Math, I will also run rings around the two of you re that language in this Forum. You can bet on that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ticbol View Post
    So, no, I am a mathematician!
    You can think that. But no other person will accept that.
    For one thing, the Greek translation of mathematics means "interested in learning". Because one quality that mathemations have is that they are interested in learning new and new and new stuff, one thing you admitted you do not want to do because you consider it useless. The second problem, is that you do not know enough math related stuff. If you knew some advanced topics, say PDE's, than your argument will be more compelling.

    I recommend to read this.
    Perhaps it will change your view about mathematics.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ticbol View Post
    To avoid getting some of your, and captain black's, "tickets", I will refrain from replying the way I want to reply here. It is unfair.
    Fair or not, I agree with the "tickets." Might I respectfully suggest the topic of conversation has gone so far off the track of the original thread that you move this conversation to PM?

    -Dan
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    Quote Originally Posted by topsquark View Post
    Fair or not, I agree with the "tickets." Might I respectfully suggest the topic of conversation has gone so far off the track of the original thread that you move this conversation to PM?

    -Dan
    I agree, and have closed this thread. This conversation belongs in the
    Philosophy of Mathamatics forum, where it will be on topic, though will
    still get closed if it gets this heated again.

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