Can anyone solve this using Natural Deduction rules? (ND)

I have attached a file showing the same problem with better symbols.

I ^ ~(TvD) -> R given

D^N -> V given

I -> ~T given

N^~V -> R goal

Thank you !!!(Wink)

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- January 11th 2010, 11:58 AMSavvasclHelp with Logic (Natural Deduction)
Can anyone solve this using Natural Deduction rules? (ND)

I have attached a file showing the same problem with better symbols.

I ^ ~(TvD) -> R given

D^N -> V given

I -> ~T given

N^~V -> R goal

Thank you !!!(Wink) - January 11th 2010, 02:57 PMemakarovQuote:

I ^ ~(TvD) -> R given

D^N -> V given

I -> ~T given

N^~V -> R goal

(I /\ ~(T \/ D)) -> R given

(D /\ N) -> V given

I -> ~T given

(N /\ ~V) -> R goal

Then what happens when I, V, R, D are false and T, N are true?

If you can wait, I could look into this tomorrow morning. I like natural deduction! - January 11th 2010, 03:24 PMclic-clac
From what I see the problem is correct. (if I is false then R follows from the first given formula)

- January 12th 2010, 02:13 AMemakarov
If the parentheses are as I indicated and if I is false, the first formula is automatically true and does not say anything about R. I am not sure if I should try other ways to parenthesize or if there is something wrong with the problem statement...

- January 12th 2010, 03:19 AMclic-clac
Hell, true; I don't know why when I saw the first formula true I deduced R was true... And I made that mistake twice before posting :)

I don't know, I would have put the parentheses exactly as you did. Unless in the first formula, we have to read

(but I find that strange)

the problem statement may be wrong. - January 12th 2010, 05:51 AMSavvascl

So thats more like!! The problem statements are correct I ve just put also the parentheses to make it easier to read.

(Anyone can eliminate the parentheses using the parenthesis elimination rules!!) ! So any ideas...?? - January 12th 2010, 06:35 AMemakarov
Is there a difference with the version I gave above?

- January 12th 2010, 03:07 PMSavvascl
No I just made it more readable....