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    Find the range of values of values of x for which the series \sum_{n=0}^{\infty} \sin^{2n} (x) and \sum_{n=0}^{\infty} 2n \sin ^{2n-1}(x) converge, and find an expression for their sums, carefully justifying your answers.
    I've calculated the radius of convergence for \sum_{n =0}^{\infty}  \sin^{2n} x in two different ways and I get two different answers.

    The first way:

    Let a_n= \sin^{2n} x.
    Therefore limsup_{n \rightarrow \infty} | \sin^{2n} x|^{\frac{1}{n} }=limsup_{n \rightarrow \infty} | \sin^2 x|=1

    Hence R=\frac{1}{1}=1.

    Alternatively, using the ratio test:

    \left| \frac{a_{n+1}}{a_n} \right|=\left|\frac{\sin^{2n+2} x}{ \sin^{2n} x} \right|=\left|\sin^2 (x) \right|< 1 \Leftrightarrow \sin x<1 \Rightarrow x<\frac{\pi}{2}

    This tells me that R=\frac{\pi}{2}.
    Which one is correct.

    For \sum_{n=0}^{\infty} 2n \sin^{2n-1} x:

    \left| \frac{a_{n+1}}{a_n} \right|=\left| \frac{2(n+1) \sin^{2n+1} x}{2n \sin^{2n-1} x } \right|= \left| \frac{n+1}{n} \sin^2 x \right| \rightarrow |sin^2 x|<1 \Rightarrow \ x< \frac{\pi}{2}

    The main problem I have now is trying to find the expression for the sums. Can someone show me how to do that?
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    Well the first one is just a geometric series with common ration \sin(x). So you need |\sin(x)|<1\Longrightarrow -\frac{\pi}{2}<x<\frac{\pi}{2}.

    Additionally, the root test states that the series converges absolutely if \limsup \sqrt[n]{|a_n|}<1. So using what you have above, you will arrive at the same result.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Showcase_22 View Post
    I've calculated the radius of convergence for \sum_{n =0}^{\infty}  \sin^{2n} x in two different ways and I get two different answers.

    The first way:

    Let a_n= \sin^{2n} x.
    Therefore limsup_{n \rightarrow \infty} | \sin^{2n} x|^{\frac{1}{n} }=limsup_{n \rightarrow \infty} | \sin^2 x|=1

    Hence R=\frac{1}{1}=1.

    Alternatively, using the ratio test:

    \left| \frac{a_{n+1}}{a_n} \right|=\left|\frac{\sin^{2n+2} x}{ \sin^{2n} x} \right|=\left|\sin^2 (x) \right|< 1 \Leftrightarrow \sin x<1 \Rightarrow x<\frac{\pi}{2}

    This tells me that R=\frac{\pi}{2}.
    Which one is correct.

    For \sum_{n=0}^{\infty} 2n \sin^{2n-1} x:

    \left| \frac{a_{n+1}}{a_n} \right|=\left| \frac{2(n+1) \sin^{2n+1} x}{2n \sin^{2n-1} x } \right|= \left| \frac{n+1}{n} \sin^2 x \right| \rightarrow |sin^2 x|<1 \Rightarrow \ x< \frac{\pi}{2}

    The main problem I have now is trying to find the expression for the sums. Can someone show me how to do that?
    Both reduce, as you show, to \left|sin^2(x)\right|< 1!

    How did you then decide that the first \left|sin^2(x)\right|< 1 tells you that |x|< 1 and the the second \left|sin^2(x)\right|< 1 that |x|< \pi/2?
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    \sum_{n=0}^{\infty}2n \sin^{2n-1}(x)\equiv \frac{2}{a}\sum_{n=0}^{\infty} n(a^2)^n

    Now, what is:

    \sum_{n=0}^{\infty} n k^n
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    Well for |x|<1 you have that \sum_{n=0}^\infty x^n=\frac{1}{1-x}. So doing the taking the derivative you have that \sum_{n=0}^\infty nx^{n-1}=\frac{1}{(1-x)^2}. From here you should see how to get to \sum nx^n
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    Additionally, the root test states that the series converges absolutely if . So using what you have above, you will arrive at the same result.
    That's one of my problems.

    Is it true that limsup_{n \rightarrow \infty} \sin^2 x =1?

    Therefore the radius of convergence R should be R=\frac{1}{1}=1.

    However, when I use the ratio test (as seen in previous posts) I get \frac{\pi}{2}. It seems odd that i'm getting two different answers
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    Quote Originally Posted by Showcase_22 View Post
    That's one of my problems.

    Is it true that limsup_{n \rightarrow \infty} \sin^2 x =1?

    Therefore the radius of convergence R should be R=\frac{1}{1}=1.

    However, when I use the ratio test (as seen in previous posts) I get \frac{\pi}{2}. It seems odd that i'm getting two different answers
    No, you are using \limsup \sqrt[n]{|a_n|}=1, this is different from \limsup\sqrt[n]{|a_n|}<1, that is where you problem is coming from.
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    No, you are using , this is different from , that is where you problem is coming from.
    Sorry but I can't see the difference

    On a lighter note, he's my working on the sums:

    \sum_{n=0}^{\infty}\sin^{2n} x=\frac{1}{1-\sin^2 x}=\frac{1}{\cos^2 x}=\sec^2 x

    \sum_{n=0}^{\infty} 2n \sin^{2n-1} x=\frac{d}{dx} \left(\frac{1}{\cos^2 x}\right)=\frac{\cos^2 x (0)+2 \cos x \sin x}{\cos^4 x}=\frac{2 \sin x}{\cos^3 x}=2 \tan x \sec^2 x

    Finally, Shawsend i'm quite interested in solving what you've put. Unfortunately, what is the "a" in your <br /> <br />
\sum_{n=0}^{\infty}2n \sin^{2n-1}(x)\equiv \frac{2}{a}\sum_{n=0}^{\infty} n(a^2)^n<br />
?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Showcase_22 View Post

    Finally, Shawsend i'm quite interested in solving what you've put. Unfortunately, what is the "a" in your <br /> <br />
\sum_{n=0}^{\infty}2n \sin^{2n-1}(x)\equiv \frac{2}{a}\sum_{n=0}^{\infty} n(a^2)^n<br />
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    a=\sin(x)
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    In what you are using there is an equal sign, =, however it should be replaces with less than, <.

    I am sure that we would both agree that the following are different:
    x=1 and x<1.
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    I should have written:

    \sum_{n=0}^{\infty}2n \sin^{2n-1}(x)= \frac{2}{a}\sum_{n=0}^{\infty} n(a^2)^n;\quad a=\sin(x)<br />
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    <br /> <br />
\sum_{n=0}^{\infty} n k^n<br />

    We know that <br /> <br />
\sum_{n=0}^\infty x^n=\frac{1}{1-x}<br />
and <br /> <br />
\sum_{n=0}^\infty nx^{n-1}=\frac{1}{(1-x)^2}<br />
.

    This implies that <br /> <br />
\sum_{n=0}^{\infty} n k^n<br />
=\frac{k}{(k-1)^2}
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    Well you might want to check the lower index on \sum_{n=0}^\infty nx^{n-1}, but that's the general idea.
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    why?

    What's wrong with it?
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    The case where x=0 would cause some problems since how would you define 0\cdot 0^{-1}? But I suppose the same can be said about the original sum with its 0^0 term.
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