Hi,

I have the following -periodic function:

(1)

Is this integral to compute correct using(1)? If not what are the limits? Any help or guidance would be appriciate it.

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- Sep 17th 2010, 09:46 AM4MathTrigonometric Fourier series
Hi,

I have the following -periodic function:

(1)

Is this integral to compute correct using*(1)*? If not what are the limits? Any help or guidance would be appriciate it. - Sep 17th 2010, 09:51 AMAckbeet
Hmm. I'd say your expression for should be

Your initial integral there had the wrong limits. Your final expression is correct (you fixed your error in there somewhere.) - Sep 17th 2010, 10:11 AM4Math
- Sep 17th 2010, 10:15 AMAckbeet
No, no. Re-read my earlier post more carefully:

Quote:

Your initial integral there had the wrong limits. Your final expression is correct...

- Sep 17th 2010, 11:23 AM4Math
- Sep 17th 2010, 11:25 AMAckbeet
Looks good to me.

- Sep 19th 2010, 10:22 AM4Math
I have computed and was wondering if this is correct.

...

The first integral...

The second integral...

...therefore is the second integral equals...

and I get...

That concludes that the trigonometric Fourier series for the given function above is...

- Sep 20th 2010, 03:05 AMAckbeet
I agree with your computations of . And since you're dealing with an even function, your for all . However, when you construct your Fourier Series, the result should have 's in it! The formula you want, in your case, is

- Sep 20th 2010, 05:16 AM4Math
Since the function is even shouldn't be as followed? In other words I should double the integral?

- Sep 20th 2010, 06:22 AMAckbeet
You're confusing yourself, I think. Constructing a trigonometric Fourier series is a two-step process (depending on how you count steps):

1. Compute the coefficients and , including That is, compute

and

2. Write out the representation of the function as

Note: the wiki has a slightly different account. Consult it to see how the factors work.

I've seen you do some good work on computing the coefficients, but I have not seen you do step 2 correctly yet. - Sep 20th 2010, 07:38 AM4Math
Are the limits always ? I mean in the formulas for and .

I have to be honest that I am confused. The reason for that is everywhere I look the formulas for , and are different.

For instance these two expressions are not the same to me:

(1)

(2)

I noted also the expressions from wiki and when I apply these I should get the same result but I don't. For example:

Should I apply this result to (1)?

But when I computed the above:

should I apply (2) for this result?

I would appriciate a clarification about this.

Thank you - Sep 20th 2010, 10:22 AMAckbeet
For a -periodic integrable function , you have

Here the notation

just means integrate over one period. The endpoints of the interval over which you integrate are unimportant, except that you must have Also, you'll notice that I've used a dummy variable for the integrations so as not to collide with the of

The stuff inside the parentheses are "essentially" the Fourier coefficients. Different authors put the in different places, depending on their preferences. So the key to remember is that those factors are there somehow, and that the cosine integrals get multiplied by the cosine terms, and the same for the sin integrals.

Does this clear things up a bit? - Sep 20th 2010, 11:47 AM4Math
- Sep 20th 2010, 11:51 AMAckbeet
In your case, simply choose a = 0, b = 2pi. You have a 2pi-periodic function. That means you can choose the 2pi-wide interval that you want to use. So pick the easiest one: [0,2pi]. All of the integrals in the big equation I wrote above must be 2pi-wide. That's the important thing: you capture one period in each interval. Nothing else matters. I would just pick the same interval for all three integrals: it's the easiest thing to do.

- Sep 20th 2010, 12:47 PM4Math
So the trigonometric Fourier series for the given function is:

Your explanation made it much more clear and I can see that the different ways the authors write and all relate to each other, thanks to your two last posts. Thank you very much.