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- January 16th 2010, 11:43 PMkingwinnerIf lim sup a_n = lim inf a_n = a, then a_n->a
- January 17th 2010, 01:42 PMkingwinner
Or maybe perhaps someone can provide a different/simpler proof for theorem 1?

- January 17th 2010, 02:20 PMDrexel28
Theorem 1: It can easily be seen that if is the set of all sub sequential limits of then and . But, since exists and equals we know that every subsequential limit converges to so that

Theorem 2: Using the same idea as above we see that since for every we see that and so every subsequential limit converges to . The conclusion follows. - January 17th 2010, 05:43 PMkingwinner
Somehow my textbook presents lim sup in a different way. It defines the lim sup as simply the limit of the seqeunce of supremums of the tails, and nothing related to subsequences and subsequential limits. (so I admit there is some gap between your proof and my background)

Is there an alternative way to prove theorem 1 using more basic definitions/principles? (e.g. epsilon-limit proofs, upper bounds, least upper bounds, etc.)

Thank you! - January 17th 2010, 08:04 PMDrexel28
- January 18th 2010, 12:32 PMkingwinner
|a_n -a| < ε for all n≥N

=> a-ε < a_n < a+ε for all n≥N

=> in particular,

a-ε < a_N < a+ε........................(1)

sup a_n ≥ a_n for all n≥N (by definition of an upper bound)

n≥N

=> in particular,

sup a_n ≥ a_N............................(2)

n≥N

(1) and (2) show that we will*always*have

sup a_n > a-ε

n≥N

But how to do it for the "upper" bound a+ε?