# Change of Variables

• Feb 16th 2011, 06:11 PM
divinelogos
Change of Variables
I'm having trouble rewriting differential equations in the form F(v). That is, changing a function to make it's variables have the form "y/x" so I can perform the substitution v=y/x. Here's a sample problem:

Solve the differential equation:

yy'= sqrt(x^2+y^2)-x

Is there a general way to go about transforming this into the form f(v)?

Any help would be much appreciated.

Thank!
• Feb 16th 2011, 06:18 PM
alexmahone
Quote:

Originally Posted by divinelogos
I'm having trouble rewriting differential equations in the form F(v). That is, changing a function to make it's variables have the form "y/x" so I can perform the substitution v=y/x. Here's a sample problem:

Solve the differential equation:

yy'= sqrt(x^2+y^2)-x

Is there a general way to go about transforming this into the form f(v)?

Any help would be much appreciated.

Thank!

$\displaystyle \displaystyle yy'=\sqrt{x^2+y^2}-x$

$\displaystyle \displaystyle y'=\frac{\sqrt{x^2+y^2}}y}-\frac{x}{y}$

$\displaystyle \displaystyle y'=\sqrt{\frac{x^2}{y^2}+1}-\frac{x}{y}$
• Feb 16th 2011, 06:44 PM
divinelogos
How did you get from the second step to the third step?
• Feb 16th 2011, 06:47 PM
alexmahone
Quote:

Originally Posted by divinelogos
How did you get from the second step to the third step?

$\displaystyle \displaystyle \frac{\sqrt{x^2+y^2}}{y}=\sqrt\frac{x^2+y^2}{y^2}= \sqrt{\frac{x^2}{y^2}+1}$
• Feb 16th 2011, 06:49 PM
divinelogos
THAT'S what it was. Some sneaky Algebra right there...Thank you my man!
• Feb 16th 2011, 07:18 PM
divinelogos
One more question. That gets it in x/y but I need y/x...
• Feb 16th 2011, 07:23 PM
alexmahone
Quote:

Originally Posted by divinelogos
One more question. That gets it in x/y but I need y/x...

You can still substitute $\displaystyle \displaystyle v=\frac{y}{x}$ so that $\displaystyle \displaystyle \frac{x}{y}=\frac{1}{v}$.
• Feb 16th 2011, 07:54 PM
divinelogos
That works, but it leads to an integral that can only be solved in terms of other integrals. Do you know how they got this?

http://img29.imageshack.us/img29/5052/problemtp.jpg

• Feb 16th 2011, 08:58 PM
topsquark
$\displaystyle \displaystyle y'=\frac{\sqrt{x^2+y^2}}{y}$

$\displaystyle \displaystyle y'= \frac{\sqrt{x^2+y^2}}{ \sqrt{y^2} } = \sqrt{ \frac{x^2 + y^2}{y^2}}$

$\displaystyle \displaystyle = \sqrt{\frac{x^2}{y^2} + \frac{y^2}{y^2}}$

etc.

-Dan
• Feb 16th 2011, 09:22 PM
divinelogos
That gets me to:

y'=sqrt((x^2/y^2)) - x/y

I still don't see how they got to that second step :/