# Thread: need help growth problem

1. ## need help growth problem

given y=Ce^kt where C is the initial value

The count in a bacteria culture was 5000 after 15 min and 40000 after 1 hour

What is the initial size of the culture?

2. Originally Posted by justin016
given y=Ce^kt where C is the initial value

The count in a bacteria culture was 5000 after 15 min and 40000 after 1 hour

What is the initial size of the culture?

Use the two conditions to solve for C and k

Is time measured in hours or minutes?

5000 = C e^(k15)
40000 = C e^(k60)

Divide the second by the first, side by side:
8 = e^(60k-15k)

8 = e^(45k)
ln 8 = 45k

k =ln8 /45

Plug into one of the conditions above to find C. C is the original population, because it is the y-value at t=0.
Good luck!!

3. i plugged k= ln8/45 into Ce^k15=5000 to find C ,and i get 12.2877

The answer i am looking for is 2500. What did i do wrong?

4. Originally Posted by justin016
i plugged k= ln8/45 into Ce^k15=5000 to find C ,and i get 12.2877

The answer i am looking for is 2500. What did i do wrong?
Try units in hours. I assumed minutes in the notes above.

5. Originally Posted by apcalculus
Try units in hours. I assumed minutes in the notes above.
I still get the same answer

6. Originally Posted by justin016
i plugged k= ln8/45 into Ce^k15=5000 to find C ,and i get 12.2877

The answer i am looking for is 2500. What did i do wrong?
If you don't post your working, how can you expect anyone to answer this? And how can you expect to learn from your mistake(s).

Originally Posted by justin016
I still get the same answer
A start:

$\displaystyle 5000 = C e^{\left( \frac{\ln 8}{45}\right) 15} = C e^{\frac{\ln 8}{3}} = C e^{\ln 2}$

where you get that last expression by applying a well known log rule.

7. Ce^ln8/3=5000
Ce^ln2=5000
C2=5000
C=5000/2
C=2500

I got confuse where you changed from ln8/3=ln2. How did you do that?

8. Originally Posted by justin016
Ce^ln8/3=5000
Ce^ln2=5000
C2=5000
C=5000/2
C=2500

I got confuse where you changed from ln8/3=ln2. How did you do that?
$\displaystyle \frac{\ln 8}{3} = \frac{1}{3} \ln 8 = \ln 8^{1/3}$ using the usual log rule $\displaystyle a \ln b = \ln b^a$.

And you should know that $\displaystyle 8^{1/3} = \sqrt[3] 8 = 2$.

9. Originally Posted by mr fantastic
$\displaystyle \frac{\ln 8}{3} = \frac{1}{3} \ln 8 = \ln 8^{1/3}$ using the usual log rule $\displaystyle a \ln b = \ln b^a$.

And you should know that $\displaystyle 8^{1/3} = \sqrt[3] 8 = 2$.

Okay i got it, thanx alot