# T/F about orthogonal

• Dec 5th 2006, 09:52 AM
Jenny20
question 1
The nonzero vector U and V are orthogonal if and only if U x V = 0 .
The answer is false.

question 2
U x V = 0 if and only if U and V are orthogonal.

Can you explain to me why question 1 is false ?
I know question 2 is true because it is the definition of orthogonal.

Thank you very much.
• Dec 5th 2006, 10:03 AM
ThePerfectHacker
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jenny20
question 1
The nonzero vector U and V are orthogonal if and only if U x V = 0 .
The answer is false.

question 2
U x V = 0 if and only if U and V are orthogonal.

Can you explain to me why question 1 is false ?
I know question 2 is true because it is the definition of orthogonal.

Thank you very much.

False, False, False.
Two vectors are othrogonal if and only if their dot product is zero.
• Dec 5th 2006, 11:47 AM
Soroban
Hello, Jenny!

Quote:

1) The nonzero vectors $\vec{u}$ and $\vec{v}$ are orthogonal if and only if $\vec{u} \times \vec{v}\:=\:0$

The answer is false . . . Right!

Two vectors are orthogonal if their dot product is zero: . $\vec{u}\cdot\vec{v}\,=\,0$

Quote:

2) $\vec{u} \times \vec{v}\:=\:0$ if and only if $\vec{u}$ and $\vec{v}$ are orthogonal.
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Strange . . . This is identical to question 1.

$\vec{u} \times \vec{v}\,=\,0 \;\;\longleftrightarrow\;\;\vec{u} \parallel \vec{v}$

The cross product is zero if and only if the vectors are parallel.

• Dec 5th 2006, 03:28 PM
Jay Gatsby
Question 2 is not identical to Question 1. The assumption that the vectors are nonzero has been dropped.

It's still false though for essentially the same reasons that Question 1 is false.
• Dec 5th 2006, 03:43 PM
Plato
$\begin{array}{l}
I: < 1,0,0 > \quad \& \quad J: < 0,1,0 > \\
I \cdot J = 0\quad \& \quad I \times J = < 0,0,1 > \\
\end{array}$

The above shows that #1 is false.

$\begin{array}{l}
A: < 2,0,0 > \quad \& \quad B: < 1,0,0 > \\
A \times B = < 0,0,0 > \quad \& \quad A \cdot B \not= 0 \\
\end{array}.$

The above shows that #2 is false.
• Dec 5th 2006, 08:39 PM
Jenny20
I see.