Indefinite integral by compound substitution

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December 15th 2008, 10:21 PM
xclo0sive

Indefinite integral by compound substitution

Need help!

Integral of (X^5) sqrt (x^3)+1 dx

I hope this isint too hard to read but its only the sqrt of x^3+1
Thanks!
December 15th 2008, 10:35 PM
badgerigar

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$\int x^5\sqrt{x^3+1}dx$

try substituting $u = x^3+1$
December 15th 2008, 10:49 PM
xclo0sive

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Originally Posted by badgerigar

try substituting $u = x^3+1$

I tried that, even split x^5 to (x^2)(x^3) but my answer is way off from the books. btw the answer is 2/15((x^3)+1)^5/2 - 2/9((x^3)+1)^3/2+c
December 15th 2008, 11:06 PM
Chris L T521

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Originally Posted by xclo0sive

I tried that, even split x^5 to (x^2)(x^3) but my answer is way off from the books. btw the answer is 2/15((x^3)+1)^5/2 - 2/9((x^3)+1)^3/2+c

Going along with that u-sub, you get $\,du=3x^2\,dx$

Thus, you now get $\tfrac{1}{3}\int x^3\sqrt{u}\,du$

But $u=x^3+1\implies\dots$

So then you should end up with $\tfrac{1}{3}\int\dots\,du$

Can you fill in the $\dots$ ??
December 15th 2008, 11:10 PM
xclo0sive

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Originally Posted by Chris L T521

Going along with that u-sub, you get $\,du=3x^2\,dx$

Thus, you now get $\tfrac{1}{3}\int x^3\sqrt{u}\,du$

But $u=x^3+1\implies\dots$

So then you should end up with $\tfrac{1}{3}\int\dots\,du$

Can you fill in the $\dots$ ??

my final answer was 1/12 (x 2/3((x^3)+1)^3/2+c but its nowhere close to the answer provided.
December 15th 2008, 11:13 PM
badgerigar

The book's answer is correct. I dunno what you are doing wrong though.
December 15th 2008, 11:15 PM
Chris L T521

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Originally Posted by xclo0sive

my final answer was 1/12 (x 2/3((x^3)+1)^3/2+c but its nowhere close to the answer provided.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris L T521

Going along with that u-sub, you get $\,du=3x^2\,dx$

Thus, you now get $\tfrac{1}{3}\int x^3\sqrt{u}\,du$

But $u=x^3+1\implies\dots$

So then you should end up with $\tfrac{1}{3}\int\dots\,du$

Can you fill in the $\dots$ ??

Since $u=x^3+1$ , it implies that $u-1=x^3$

Thus, $\tfrac{1}{3}\int x^3\sqrt{u}\,du=\tfrac{1}{3}\int\left(u-1\right)\sqrt{u}\,du=\tfrac{1}{3}\int \left(u^{\frac{3}{2}}-u^{\frac{1}{2}}\right)\,du$

Can you take it from here?
December 15th 2008, 11:16 PM
Prove It

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris L T521

Going along with that u-sub, you get $\,du=3x^2\,dx$

Thus, you now get $\tfrac{1}{3}\int x^3\sqrt{u}\,du$

But $u=x^3+1\implies\dots$

So then you should end up with $\tfrac{1}{3}\int\dots\,du$

Can you fill in the $\dots$ ??

$\tfrac{1}{3}\int x^3\sqrt{u}\,du$

$u=x^3+1\implies\ x^3 = u - 1$

So $\tfrac{1}{3}\int (u - 1)\sqrt{u}\,du = \tfrac{1}{3}\int u^{\frac{3}{2}} - u^{\frac{1}{2}}\,du$ .

Can you do this integral?
December 15th 2008, 11:19 PM
xclo0sive

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Originally Posted by Prove It

$\tfrac{1}{3}\int x^3\sqrt{u}\,du$

$u=x^3+1\implies\ x^3 = u - 1$

So $\tfrac{1}{3}\int (u - 1)\sqrt{u}\,du = \tfrac{1}{3}\int u^{\frac{3}{2}} - u^{\frac{1}{2}}\,du$ .

Can you do this integral?

Oh WOW THanks guys! I completely forgot to substitute the x^3! Thanks!!
EDIT: How did you get u^ 3/2
December 16th 2008, 12:44 AM
badgerigar

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How did you get u^ 3/2

$(u-1)\sqrt{u} = u^1u^{1/2}-u^{1/2}$
$=u^{1+1/2}-u^{1/2}$