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    4 Limit problems.

    Determine the limits of the following functions as x\to\infty\ , if they exist.

    f(x)=4x^2-3x^3.

    f(x)=\frac{x^4 + 3x^2 - 2x}{2x^4 + 5}

    f(x)=\frac{xsin^2x}{x^2+5}

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 f(x) =<br />
 \begin{cases}<br />
0 & \mbox{if x is rational}\\<br />
\frac{1}{x}& \mbox{if x isn't rational}<br />
  \end{cases}<br />


    Ive done quite a few of these now, but im stuck on these 4.

    edit: while doing my exersices i found a 5th problem that i wasn't sure about:

    f(x)=\frac{\sqrt{x}-1}{x^2}

    I think i got the limit as 0 using l'hopitals rule but it got a bit messy and im not sure if i did it right.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kbartlett View Post
    Determine the limits of the following functions as x\to\infty\ , if they exist.

    f(x)=4x^2-3x^3.

    f(x)=\frac{x^4 + 3x^2 - 2x}{2x^4 + 5}

    f(x)=\frac{xsin^2x}{x^2+5}

    <br />
 f(x) =<br />
 \begin{cases}<br />
0 & \mbox{if x is rational}\\<br />
\frac{1}{x}& \mbox{if x isn't rational}<br />
  \end{cases}<br />


    Ive done quite a few of these now, but im stuck on these 4.
    for the first one, try to factor x^3

    for the second one, multiply and divide \frac{1}{x^4} or use l'hopital's rule

    third: i think, you have to multiply and divide \frac{1}{x^2}

    fourth, i think, it is obvious..
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    For the 1st one, 4x^2-3x^3=x^3(\frac{4}{x}-3), and as x\to\infty it is obvious x^3\to\infty, and \frac{4}{x}-3\to\--3 so the limit is -\infty is my method right?

    Using l'hopitals rule for the second i got the limit as 1/2.

    For the 4th one, i think the limit is 0 because \frac{1}{x}\to\infty as x\to\infty is that right?

    could any1 confirm if my answers are correct?
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    Quote Originally Posted by kbartlett View Post
    For the 1st one, 4x^2-3x^3=x^3(\frac{4}{x}-3), and as x\to\infty it is obvious x^3\to\infty, and \frac{4}{x}-3\to\--3 so the limit is -\infty is my method right?

    Using l'hopitals rule for the second i got the limit as 1/2.

    For the 4th one, i think the limit is 0 because \frac{1}{x}\to\infty as x\to\infty is that right?

    could any1 confirm if my answers are correct?
    yes.
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    can any1 help me with 3 or 5?
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    Talking

    still need help
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    Quote Originally Posted by kbartlett View Post
    still need help
    For 3, you should use squeeze theorem.

    For 5: surely you can figure this out on your own?
    \frac{\sqrt{x} - 1}{x^2} = \frac{\sqrt{x}}{x^2} - \frac{1}{x^2} = \sqrt{\frac{x}{x^4}} - \frac{1}{x^2}
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    For 3, i tried

    \frac{xsin^2x}{x^2+5} <= \frac{x}{x^2+5}

    but i couldn't think of anything to go the other side.

    Also thanks for the help with 5.
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    0 \leq \sin^2{x} \leq 1

    Try to manipulate it to get your original limit, then apply squeeze theorem.
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    Since 0 \leq sin^2{x} \leq 1

    \frac{-x}{x^2+5} \leq \frac{xsin^2x}{x^2+5} \leq \frac{x}{x^2+5}

    Then using l'hopitals rule or otherwise if i show that \frac{-x}{x^2+5} \to 0 as  x \to \infty and \frac{x}{x^2+5} \to 0 as  x \to \infty would that be right?
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    Quote Originally Posted by kbartlett View Post
    Since 0 \leq sin^2{x} \leq 1

    \frac{-x}{x^2+5} \leq \frac{xsin^2x}{x^2+5} \leq \frac{x}{x^2+5}

    Then using l'hopitals rule or otherwise if i show that \frac{-x}{x^2+5} \to 0 as  x \to \infty and \frac{x}{x^2+5} \to 0 as  x \to \infty would that be right?
    Excellent work, you are correct. But you don't really need to use L'Hôpital. Simply by dividing both sides of the fractions by the leading term of the denominator does the trick. For instance:

    \frac{x}{x^2+5} \cdot \frac{\frac{1}{x^2}}{\frac{1}{x^2}} = \frac{\frac{1}{x}}{1+\frac{5}{x^2}}
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    Thankyou
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