integrate xsecx^2tanx^2

(notice: not, xsec^2xtan^x)

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- Sep 23rd 2008, 12:01 PMploomsNeed help with a u-substitution problemintegrate xsecx^2tanx^2

(notice: not, xsec^2xtan^x)

- Sep 23rd 2008, 12:18 PMKrizalid
Put and the integral you'll get is a basic one, it comes from the derivative of secant.

- Sep 23rd 2008, 12:31 PMplooms
i came out to . Is that right?

- Sep 23rd 2008, 12:34 PMMoo
No, you have to substitute back. And the 2 is in the denominator !

Because when subbing y=x², dy=2x dx ---> dx=dy/(2x)

a way to check a result : Wolfram Mathematica Online Integrator - Sep 23rd 2008, 12:42 PMplooms
got it! and thanks for the website

- Sep 23rd 2008, 12:48 PMplooms
Integrate 2/[x^(1/4)+x]

How would i go about finding a substitution for that? - Sep 23rd 2008, 01:08 PMMoo
Here is what I would do :

Substituting ? Not good. The dy will have a nasty expression !

Substituting ? Not bad... But it would be something weird though

Another method ? Why not ? (Rofl)

Now, substitue

Going back to the integral :

Do you see any simplification with the red parts ?? :)

Edit : you could have substituted , but it doesn't matter, you got it ;) - Sep 23rd 2008, 01:15 PMplooms
yep! it cancels to just x

- Sep 23rd 2008, 01:18 PMMoo
- Sep 23rd 2008, 01:24 PMplooms
ohhh durr!

1/y would integrate to log(y)

(8/3)[log(x^(3/4))+1]+c ? - Sep 23rd 2008, 01:24 PMMoo
- Sep 23rd 2008, 01:33 PMplooms
thanks a lot for the detailed responses!

- Sep 23rd 2008, 06:09 PMKrizalid