Thread: U - Substitution for integrals

lower boundary = 0

upper boundary = 4

x / (sqrt 1 + 2x)

I've let u = 1 + 2x

du = xdx

new boundaries = 1 to 9

u^-1/2 du. If I integrate it, it will 2u^1/2

2(9)^1/2 - 2(1)^1/2 = 4

This is what I keep getting but apparently it's wrong.....I'm not understanding how else to do this problem . The answer should be 10/3

Originally Posted by JonathanEyoon

lower boundary = 0

upper boundary = 4

x / (sqrt 1 + 2x)

I've let u = 1 + 2x

du = xdx

new boundaries = 1 to 9

u^-1/2 du. If I integrate it, it will 2u^1/2

2(9)^1/2 - 2(1)^1/2 = 4

This is what I keep getting but apparently it's wrong.....I'm not understanding how else to do this problem . The answer should be 10/3

$\displaystyle u=1+2x \to du=2dx$ it does not equal xdx

Originally Posted by JonathanEyoon

lower boundary = 0

upper boundary = 4

x / (sqrt 1 + 2x)

I've let u = 1 + 2x

du = xdx

new boundaries = 1 to 9

u^-1/2 du. If I integrate it, it will 2u^1/2

2(9)^1/2 - 2(1)^1/2 = 4

This is what I keep getting but apparently it's wrong.....I'm not understanding how else to do this problem . The answer should be 10/3

$\displaystyle \int_0^{4}\frac{\varphi}{1+2\varphi}d\varphi$

Let $\displaystyle \lambda=\sqrt{1+2\varphi}\Rightarrow\varphi=\frac{ \lambda^2-1}{2}$

So $\displaystyle d\varphi=\lambda{d\lambda}$

And seeing that at $\displaystyle \lambda(0)=\sqrt{1+2(0)}=1$

and $\displaystyle \lambda(4)=\sqrt{1+2(4)}=3$

We have

$\displaystyle \frac{1}{2}\int_1^{3}\frac{(\lambda^2-1)\lambda}{\lambda}d\lambda=\frac{1}{2}\bigg[\frac{\lambda^3}{3}-\lambda\bigg]\bigg|_{1}^{3}=\frac{10}{3}$

Originally Posted by TheEmptySet

$\displaystyle u=1+2x \to du=2dx$ it does not equal xdx

forgive me, i've been studying all day and it's late now. I should have definitely caught that. I'll rework the problem and try again.

This is a fun different sub try

$\displaystyle t^2=1+2x \implies 2tdt=2dx \iff tdt=dx$

Solving the first for x we get $\displaystyle t^2=1+2x \iff x=\frac{t^2-1}{2}$

$\displaystyle \int_{0}^{4}\frac{x}{\sqrt{1+2x}}dx=\int_{1}^{3}\f rac{\frac{t^2-1}{2}}{\sqrt{t^2}}tdt=\frac{1}{2}\int_{1}^{3}t^2-1dt=\frac{1}{2}\left( \frac{1}{3}t^3-t\right)\bigg|_{1}^{3}=\frac{10}{3}$

Originally Posted by Mathstud28

$\displaystyle \int_0^{4}\frac{\varphi}{1+2\varphi}d\varphi$

Let $\displaystyle \lambda=\sqrt{1+2\varphi}\Rightarrow\varphi=\frac{ \lambda^2-1}{2}$

So $\displaystyle d\varphi=\lambda{d\lambda}$

And seeing that at $\displaystyle \lambda(0)=\sqrt{1+2(0)}=1$

and $\displaystyle \lambda(4)=\sqrt{1+2(4)}=3$

We have

$\displaystyle \frac{1}{2}\int_1^{3}\frac{(\lambda^2-1)\lambda}{\lambda}d\lambda=\frac{1}{2}\bigg[\frac{\lambda^3}{3}-\lambda\bigg]\bigg|_{1}^{3}=\frac{10}{3}$

Originally Posted by TheEmptySet

This is a fun different sub try

$\displaystyle t^2=1+2x \implies 2tdt=2dx \iff tdt=dx$

Solving the first for x we get $\displaystyle t^2=1+2x \iff x=\frac{t^2-1}{2}$

$\displaystyle \int_{0}^{4}\frac{x}{\sqrt{1+2x}}dx=\int_{1}^{3}\f rac{\frac{t^2-1}{2}}{\sqrt{t^2}}tdt=\frac{1}{2}\int_{1}^{3}t^2-1dt=\frac{1}{2}\left( \frac{1}{3}t^3-t\right)\bigg|_{1}^{3}=\frac{10}{3}$

I think I have seen this method done before somewhere...hmm

Originally Posted by JonathanEyoon

forgive me, i've been studying all day and it's late now. I should have definitely caught that. I'll rework the problem and try again.

I know you were on this morning before I went to work and you are still on now that I'm home.

question :

Could I just substitute how I did originally?

u = 1 + 2x

du / 2 = dx


As for the last substitution for the x in the numerator, can I just let x = (u - 1) / 2?

Originally Posted by JonathanEyoon

question :

Could I just substitute how I did originally?

u = 1 + 2x

du / 2 = dx


As for the last substitution for the x in the numerator, can I just let x = (u - 1) / 2?

Yes that is what you need to do!

Nice

Originally Posted by JonathanEyoon

lower boundary = 0

upper boundary = 4

x / (sqrt 1 + 2x)

I've let u = 1 + 2x

du = xdx

new boundaries = 1 to 9

u^-1/2 du. If I integrate it, it will 2u^1/2

2(9)^1/2 - 2(1)^1/2 = 4

This is what I keep getting but apparently it's wrong.....I'm not understanding how else to do this problem . The answer should be 10/3

Let $\displaystyle \zeta=1+2x\implies x=\frac{1}{2}(\zeta-1)$

Thus, $\displaystyle \,d\zeta=2\,dx\implies\,dx=\frac{1}{2}\,d\zeta$

Limits change as well.. $\displaystyle \zeta(4)=9, \ \zeta{0}=1$

Thus, our integral is

$\displaystyle \frac{1}{4}\int_1^9 \frac{\zeta-1}{\sqrt{\zeta}}\,d\zeta=\frac{1}{4}\int_1^9 \bigg[\sqrt{\zeta}-(\zeta)^{-\frac{1}{2}}\bigg]$

$\displaystyle =\frac{1}{4}\left.\bigg[\frac{2}{3}\zeta^{\frac{3}{2}}-2\sqrt{\zeta}\bigg]\right|_1^9=\frac{1}{4}\bigg(12+\frac{4}{3}\bigg)= \color{red}\boxed{\frac{10}{3}}$

Yippee~ So the new boundaries will still remain the same as what I originally had above right?

New lower = 1 and New upper = 9?

Originally Posted by Chris L T521

Let $\displaystyle \zeta=1+2x\implies x=\frac{1}{2}(\zeta-1)$

Thus, $\displaystyle \,d\zeta=2\,dx\implies\,dx=\frac{1}{2}\,d\zeta$

Limits change as well.. $\displaystyle \zeta(4)=9, \ \zeta{0}=1$

Thus, our integral is

$\displaystyle \frac{1}{4}\int_1^9 \frac{\zeta-1}{\sqrt{\zeta}}\,d\zeta=\frac{1}{4}\int_1^9 \bigg[\sqrt{\zeta}-(\zeta)^{-\frac{1}{2}}\bigg]$

$\displaystyle =\frac{1}{4}\left.\bigg[\frac{2}{3}\zeta^{\frac{3}{2}}-2\sqrt{\zeta}\bigg]\right|_1^9=\frac{1}{4}\bigg(12+\frac{4}{3}\bigg)= \color{red}\boxed{\frac{10}{3}}$

I say we reform! No more using x or y as a variable. Viva la $\displaystyle \varphi$!

Originally Posted by JonathanEyoon

Yippee~ So the new boundaries will still remain the same as what I originally had above right?

New lower = 1 and New upper = 9?

Yep...

Originally Posted by Mathstud28

I say we reform! No more using x or y as a variable. Viva la $\displaystyle \varphi$!

Haha. I'm gonna use this one from now on. Viva la $\displaystyle \varrho$!