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    Volume help!

    A hole of radius r is bored through a cylinder of radius R at right angles
    to the axis of the cylinder. Set up, but do not evaluate, an integral for the
    volume cut out.
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    Looking down the 'throat' of the cylinder along the axis, we have something that looks kind of like this.

    From the diagram, y=\sqrt{R^{2}-x^{2}}

    But x=r. So, y^{2}=R^{2}-r^{2}

    x=\sqrt{R^{2}-y^{2}}

    {\pi}\int_{-\sqrt{R^{2}-r^{2}}}^{\sqrt{R^{2}-r^{2}}}\left[(R^{2}-y^{2})-r^{2}\right]dy

    How's that?.
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    Oops, you know what I did?. I gave the volume of the solid after you drill the hole, not the hole itself. Can you adjust accordingly looking at the diagram or just subtracting it from the volume of the entire cylinder?.
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    The thing that gets me is that the books answer makes no sense to me.
    8integralsign(lim r to 0) sqrt(R^2-y^2)*sqrt(r^2-y^2)dy
    that 8 is not a typo I have no I idea how that constant got there.[
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    The way I'd do it, I'd take a parabola y=R-x^2 and rotate about the y axis with the limits of integration x= r to x=0. so S (S is the integral sign) r to 0
    pi(R-x^2)^2dx but that is way different from the answer I posted.
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    I have a plan. I see a rectangle in that drawing. I will tackle this problem when I'm done with dinner. Don't post any solutions until I am done with the
    problem (hate to be a board fascist lol).
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    I see what they done.

    8\int_{0}^{r}\sqrt{R^{2}-y^{2}}\sqrt{r^{2}-y^{2}}dy

    They broke the drilled hole up into octants(hence the multiplication by 8), then multiplied the area of the base by the height.
    The height being
    \sqrt{R^{2}-y^{2}}
    and the area of the base being
    \sqrt{r^{2}-y^{2}}.

    Of course, then they integrated over the region that makes up the hole.

    That particular integral is a booger. I can see why they said do not evaluate.
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    Actually, thinking about it, what I worked out is for a hole through a sphere instead of a cylinder. It gives the volume remaining after a hole is drilled through a sphere. You can keep it if you wish or I can delete it.
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    Okay I took the x section to be a rectangle. The width of the rectangle
    is a piece of a circle with respect to y so it is sqrt(R^2-y^2) with R being
    the radius of the cylinder. The length of the rectangle is the y of the
    piece of the hole (which is also circular) with the equation of sqrt (r^2-y^2).
    The area of the rectangle varies along the radius of the holes so
    the two circular functions are put in l*w form. What confuses me is why the
    8 is there.
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    Oh I typed that up without reading your explaination. Oh and octants?
    Why did they do that?
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    Because it is easier a lot of times. You see it a lot when you use double or triple integration. That is a Calc III topic though.
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