# need help here

• Apr 26th 2006, 04:58 AM
cheesepie
need help here
Q1) An oscillating signal voltage is given by E=125cos(wt-&)millivolts, where the angular frequency is w=123pi,phase angle is &=pi/2,and t= time in seconds. The triggering mechanism of an oscilloscope starts the sweep when E= 60mV. what is the smallest postive value of t for which the triggering occurs?

Q2)The displacement d of a piston is given by
d=sinwt+1/2sin2wt
• Apr 26th 2006, 09:06 AM
CaptainBlack
Quote:

Originally Posted by cheesepie
Q1) An oscillating signal voltage is given by E=125cos(wt-&)millivolts, where the angular frequency is w=123pi,phase angle is &=pi/2,and t= time in seconds. The triggering mechanism of an oscilloscope starts the sweep when E= 60mV. what is the smallest postive value of t for which the triggering occurs?

$\displaystyle E(t)=125\cos(123 \pi t-\pi/2)\ \mbox{mV}$

The trigger event occurs when $\displaystyle t$ is the smallest positive root of:

$\displaystyle 125\cos(123 \pi t-\pi/2)=60$

Now:

$\displaystyle cos(\theta-\pi/2)=sin(\theta)$,

so we are interested in the roots of:

$\displaystyle 125\sin(123 \pi t)=60$

or:

$\displaystyle \sin(123 \pi t)=60/125=0.48$

The smallest positive root is what is usual give by the arcsin function on

$\displaystyle 123 \pi t=\arcsin(0.48)\approx 0.5$,

so:

$\displaystyle t\approx0.5/(123\pi) \approx 0.00129 \mbox{seconds}$

RonL
• Apr 26th 2006, 09:08 AM
CaptainBlack
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Originally Posted by cheesepie

Q2)The displacement d of a piston is given by
d=sinwt+1/2sin2wt

Yes but what is the question?

RonL
• Apr 26th 2006, 03:31 PM
cheesepie

Q2)The displacement d of a piston is given by
d=sinwt+1/2sin2wt

for what primary solutions of wt less than 2pi is d=o ?
• Apr 27th 2006, 02:06 AM
cheesepie
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• Apr 27th 2006, 03:22 AM
CaptainBlack
Quote:

Originally Posted by cheesepie

Q2)The displacement d of a piston is given by
d=sinwt+1/2sin2wt

for what primary solutions of wt less than 2pi is d=o ?

Since both the terms on the RHS are 0 at wt=0 that is a solution,
Is it the one you want though?

RonL
• Apr 27th 2006, 04:38 AM
cheesepie
the answer is 0 , pi

but can u show me the step ? thank alot ..
• Apr 27th 2006, 07:15 AM
CaptainBlack
Quote:

Originally Posted by cheesepie
the answer is 0 , pi

but can u show me the step ? thank alot ..

$\displaystyle d(wt)=\sin(wt)+1/2 \sin(2wt)=0$

Expand the second sin function using the double angle formula:

$\displaystyle \sin(wt)+1/2 \sin(2wt)=\sin(wt)+\sin(wt)\cos(wt)$$\displaystyle =\sin(wt)(1+cos(wt))=0 Now the only way that \displaystyle \sin(wt)(1+cos(wt)) can be zero is if either \displaystyle \sin(wt)=0 or \displaystyle (1+cos(wt))=0, the first of these gives \displaystyle wt=0 \mbox{ and }\pi, and the second gives \displaystyle wt=\pi, so the solutions in \displaystyle [0,2\pi] are \displaystyle wt=0 \mbox{ and }\pi. RonL • Apr 27th 2006, 07:25 AM cheesepie hi ...can u explain this step...not too sure ..thk.. \displaystyle \sin(wt)+1/2 \sin(2wt)=\sin(wt)+\sin(wt)\cos(wt)$$\displaystyle =\sin(wt)(1+cos(wt))=0$
• Apr 30th 2006, 12:51 AM
cheesepie
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• Apr 30th 2006, 01:07 AM
earboth
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Originally Posted by cheesepie
hi ...can u explain this step...not too sure ..thk..
$\displaystyle \sin(wt)+1/2 \sin(2wt)=\sin(wt)+\sin(wt)\cos(wt)$$\displaystyle =\sin(wt)(1+cos(wt))=0$

Hello,

as Capt.Black has suggested you should use the double angle formula of the sine function:

$\displaystyle \sin(2x)=2 \cdot \sin(x) \cdot \cos(x)$. Therefore:

$\displaystyle \frac{1}{2} \cdot \sin(2x)=\sin(x) \cdot \cos(x)$.

So you can sustitute $\displaystyle \frac{1}{2} \cdot \sin(2x)$ by $\displaystyle \sin(x) \cdot \cos(x)$.

Hope that this is of some help.

Greetings

EB
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• Apr 30th 2006, 07:14 AM
cheesepie
• Apr 30th 2006, 07:18 AM
earboth
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Originally Posted by cheesepie
Hi..thanks for ur reply ..i understand this step
only dont understand sin(wt)+sin(wt)cos(wt)=sin(wt)(1+cos(wt)=0

Hello,

you can factorize this sum: Put the common factor (here it is sin(wt)) before the bracket. You get the contents in paranthese by dividing both summands by sin(wt). So sin(wt)/sin(wt) = 1 (not zero!!!), you'll get the sum in the bracket.

Greetings

EB
• Apr 30th 2006, 07:19 AM
cheesepie
Got it ..thanks ..