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Understanding concavity and increasing/decreasing of the function

I have the function

finding increasing and decreasing.

I set the first derivative

and get

They create 3 intervals

1st interval

to

second interval

to

third interval

to

I plugin in values from in between these intervals into the first derivative and try to find where it is positive and where it is negative. The positive places are where the function is increasing and negatives are the places where it is decreasing. Right?

My results

are decreasing

are increasing

Next I set the second derivative as zero and undefined.

for this I can see i got a lot of intervals

and

1st interval

to

second interval

to

third interval

to

forth interval

to

Here I will have to do the same thing as I did when finding the increasing and decreasing but in this case negatives are concave down and positives are concave up.

So My results yield

are concave down

are concave up (as they are positive)

are my answers are correct? Is there a quick way to understand that from the graph? Does that has be from the original graph?

Re: Understanding concavity and increasing/decreasing of the function

All your arguments are correct and calculations too,

what do you mean by a quicker way - you actually can see the concavity on the graph, whether it is Up or Down, and I suppose that you are required to actually use all the data obtained to draw the graph by yourself, without a software, aren't you,

dokrbb

Re: Understanding concavity and increasing/decreasing of the function

I initially had a sense that increasing pretty much means concave up, and decreasing means concave down. But it doesn't seem that simple. How they are related?

By Quicker way I mean by seeing the graph I could guess what is what? Even before figuring out the derivatives. Just to cross check answers...

Re: Understanding concavity and increasing/decreasing of the function

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**ameerulislam** I initially had a sense that increasing pretty much means concave up, and decreasing means concave down. But it doesn't seem that simple. How they are related?

By Quicker way I mean by seeing the graph I could guess what is what? Even before figuring out the derivatives. Just to cross check answers...

It seems that you are confused a little bit with the definition of CU and CD,

you know what it means Concavity - and you can double check it by watching to the graph, whether the concavity is Up or Down oriented, is also clear,

the notion of Increase and decrease is a separate notion - just make them clear separately, OK

dokrbb

Re: Understanding concavity and increasing/decreasing of the function

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**ameerulislam** I initially had a sense that increasing pretty much means concave up, and decreasing means concave down. But it doesn't seem that simple. How they are related?

If the function is increasing and the __rate __of increase **is increasing**.

If the function is increasing and the __rate__ of increase **is decreasing**.

etc.

Re: Understanding concavity and increasing/decreasing of the function

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**Plato** If

the function is increasing and the

__rate __of increase **is increasing**.

If

the function is increasing and the

__rate__ of increase **is decreasing**.

etc.

interesting, pretty mind blowing... I'm still trying to understand it though.. but this is interesting indeed.

The inflection points are

points of concave up and down (change)

so and and

for this math??

Re: Understanding concavity and increasing/decreasing of the function

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**ameerulislam** interesting, pretty mind blowing... I'm still trying to understand it though.. but this is interesting indeed.

The inflection points are

points of concave up and down (change)

so

and

and

for this math??

Bump!

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**ameerulislam** Bump!

Do Not Bump.

__Not only is it against forum rules__, **it is rude, crude, and stupid**.

Re: Understanding concavity and increasing/decreasing of the function

okay sorry, I just needed the answer about the inflection points, As I have exam after couple of hours.