What is the limit of x->1 sinpi*x/(1-x)^2?

I want to solve it without using L'Hospital rule.

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- April 26th 2013, 01:41 AMkastamonulimit
What is the limit of x->1 sinpi*x/(1-x)^2?

I want to solve it without using L'Hospital rule. - April 26th 2013, 01:48 AMMarkFLRe: limit
Hint: use the identity and and a two-sided limit. What do you find?

- April 26th 2013, 02:45 AMkastamonuRe: limit
sin(pi-x)*x*(pi-x)/(1-X)(1+x)(pi-x)=x*(pi-x)/(1-x)(1+x)?

- April 26th 2013, 02:52 AMMarkFLRe: limit
No...I'm sorry but that makes no sense to me...please read my post above again and apply the identities I gave...

- April 26th 2013, 05:13 AMkastamonuRe: limit
which one is f(x) or g(x)?

- April 27th 2013, 01:46 AMkastamonuRe: limit
What is the answer then?

- April 27th 2013, 02:51 AMMarkFLRe: limit
We are given to evaluate:

The first thing I am looking for is a way to apply the well-known result:

(1)

Seeing the denominator has as a factor, this takes me to . So we now have:

Now, let's use the substitution and we have:

Now let's finish rewriting the expression so we can apply (1):

Applying (1), we are left with:

Now, do we have:

? - April 27th 2013, 10:40 AMkastamonuRe: limit
sin(pi*x) sin(pi*(x-1)+pi)

--------- = ----------------

(1-x)^2 (1-x)^2

we can replace (1-x) with u.

I am stuck in here. - April 27th 2013, 11:05 AMMarkFLRe: limit
You have incorrectly applied the trigonometric identity.

- April 27th 2013, 11:10 PMkastamonuRe: limit
Yes I found the answer.

-sin(pi*(x-1))

= --------------

(1-x)^2

sin(pi*(1-x))

= ------------- ( since -sin(y) = sin(-y) )

(1-x)^2 - April 27th 2013, 11:18 PMMarkFLRe: limit
Okay, but that's really unnecessary...did you actually read my post above where I showed you what to do except for the trivial last step? I hate to think my efforts are in vain. :D

- April 27th 2013, 11:27 PMkastamonuRe: limit
I couldn't get it.I am sorry.

- April 27th 2013, 11:33 PMMarkFLRe: limit
What exactly about what I posted don't you get...I want to help, but my main objective is for you to truly understand...tell me where I lose you in my post...

- April 27th 2013, 11:44 PMMarkFLRe: limit
edit: web error...sorry.

- April 28th 2013, 12:27 AMkastamonuRe: limit
answer is pi/2. How can I get this answer by 1/u?