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I don't understand these 2 equations from my textbook?

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For this one, when I try differentiate y(x) I end up with dy/dx = (2xy)(dy/dx) + y^2 instead of dy/dx = 2xy (I'm assuming y(x) and y mean virtually the same thing?)

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For this one I tried to verify that this example was correct, but I found that dM/dy = 2(dx/dy) + cosy + (e^-x)(y)(dx/dy)-e^-x

and dN/dx = (-xsiny)(dy/dx) + cosy - (siny)(dy/dx) - e^-x.

So it seems that the terms with (dy/dx) or (dx/dy) automatically become zeroes or just don't matter, but I don't understand why?

Re: I don't understand these 2 equations from my textbook?

I don't know where you got that " " from. "Leibniz formula" says

Here, so its derivative is 0, and so its derivative is 1. . That does not depend upon x so [tex]\frac{\partial f(x, t)}{\partial x}= 0[tex]

That is the derivative of the integral is simply f(x,x)= 2xy(x).

As for the second, you differentiate with respect to x and y **independently**, that is, you take the partial derivatives. There should be no "dy/dx" in the formulas.

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Here's what I got when I tried to derive the first equation. I never learned the Leibniz formula so this is pretty confusing to me.

For the 2nd one, I never learned about partial derivatives and I didn't notice the different "d" symbol used. Thanks for your help on this I understand the 2nd part now.

Note: I don't know why there's this attached thumbnail, but I can't get rid of it.

Re: I don't understand these 2 equations from my textbook?

You are integrating incorrectly. is NOT . For one thing you are not integrating the "t", for another y is a function of t, not just "t" itself.

For example, is NOT .

Re: I don't understand these 2 equations from my textbook?

Thank you very much. Quote:

For one thing you are not integrating the "t", for another y is a function of t, not just "t" itself.

I think you mean "not just "y" itself?

Re: I don't understand these 2 equations from my textbook?

Actually I meant "not just t itself". I don't know what you mean by "just y itself" since the integral is with respect to t. . If y is a **constant** then and if y is a function of t, the integral depends on exactly what function it is.

Re: I don't understand these 2 equations from my textbook?

oh wow I don't know how I got confused before... I'm just stuck in the habit of seeing y as a variable and not as a function. I've seen f(x) and y, but somehow seeing y(x) confused me here. For some y(t) the derivative would just be d(y(t)), which likely won't require the power rule when evaluated.