# In need of verification and help, integration of volumes

• March 2nd 2013, 07:41 PM
togo
In need of verification and help, integration of volumes
Hi. I am not sure if these questions have been posted before. Reworked them today, the answers are not in the book:

Find volume generated by revolving the regions bounded by given curves about y axis
Question 26-3-20
y^2 = x, y = 4, x = 0, Disks

Attempt:
dV = pix^2
x^2=y^4
Integration: pi(1/5)(4^5) = 634.4 ?

Question 26-3-22
y = 3x^2 - x^3, y = 0, Disks

Attempt:
dV = pix^2
(3x^2 - x^3)(3x^2 - x^3) =
6x^4 - 6x^5 + x^6
Intercepts: x = 3 when y = 0
Integration:
pi 6(3^4) - 6(3^5) + 3^6 =
pi (486-1458+729) = -763.4 ?

Question 26-3-24
x^2 + 4y^2 = 4, Disks

Attempt:
Isolating x: x^2 = 4 - 4y^2
x^2 = 4y - 1/3(4(y^3)) ?
Please let me know if this is correct so far.

• March 2nd 2013, 09:37 PM
chiro
Re: In need of verification and help, integration of volumes
Hey togo.

Q1 looks right.

For Q2, what are the limits? (Are you bounding the area by some other function?)

For Q3, try setting up your limits (between -1 and +1) and see you how go.
• March 3rd 2013, 03:18 PM
togo
Re: In need of verification and help, integration of volumes
All the info I have has been posted, for Q2 I don't understand why no limit was given either.
• March 3rd 2013, 03:26 PM
chiro
Re: In need of verification and help, integration of volumes
For Q2 you didn't calculate the anti-derivative properly: it should be:

F(x) = 6x^5/5 - x^6 + x^7/7

This gives an integral value of 6/5*3^6 - 3^6 + 3^7/7 =

> 6/5*3^6 - 3^6 + 3^7/7
[1] 458.2286

Can you try Q3?
• March 3rd 2013, 06:05 PM
togo
Re: In need of verification and help, integration of volumes
Tried Q3, the question also says Quadrant 1.
I was looking for x intercepts in order to find y boundary values, but end up dividing by zero.

y = 1 - (x^2)/4
• March 3rd 2013, 06:08 PM
chiro
Re: In need of verification and help, integration of volumes
Show us all of your working.
• March 3rd 2013, 06:58 PM
togo
Re: In need of verification and help, integration of volumes
Sorry the original equation I gave (y = 1 - (x^2)/4) was wrong (needs a square root)

4y^2 = 4 - x^2
y^2 = 1 - (x^2)/4
y = (1 - x^2/4)^(1/2)

is just a reworking of the problem equation algebraically in order to find the x intercepts and therefore find the y boundary to plug them into the integral.

the integral which I cannot even try using yet is x^2 = 4y - 1/3(4y^3) although not proven correct.

no boundaries were given in the question except "quadrant 1"
• March 4th 2013, 02:31 AM
chiro
Re: In need of verification and help, integration of volumes
If its quadrant 1, then your integral will be bound to x = -2 and x = 0.

Using this hint, can you evaluate the integral?
• March 4th 2013, 04:17 AM
HallsofIvy
Re: In need of verification and help, integration of volumes
Did you graph the function in problem 2? If you do you will see what region it is that is rotated around the y-axis. You will need to do two "disk method" integrations.
• March 4th 2013, 08:28 AM
togo
Re: In need of verification and help, integration of volumes
damn. (Q3, working on Q2 soon)

This is what I have:
x^2 = 4y - 1/3(4y^3)

principle formula dV = pix^2

Tempted to plug -2 into y in the above integral
but we plug in x as y?
4(-2) - 1/3(4(-2^3))?
• March 4th 2013, 09:14 AM
togo
Re: In need of verification and help, integration of volumes
I still get a weird answer for integral on Q2

6x^4 - 6x^5 + x^6
1/5(6x^5) - 1/6(6x^6) + 1/7(x^7)
291.6 - 729 + 312.43 = weird negative answer!
• March 4th 2013, 09:41 AM
HallsofIvy
Re: In need of verification and help, integration of volumes
If you were to graph $y= 3x^2- x^3$, you would see that there is a loop from (0, 0) up to (2, 4) and down to (3, 0). Rotating that around the y-axis gives a "doughnut" shaped figure- there is a hole in the middle. If you are using the "shell method" (though you said in your first post "Disks"), the radius of a disk would be x and the height y so you would have $2\pi \int_0^3 xydx= 2\pi \int_0^3 3x^3- x^4 dx$.

If you really want to use the "disk" method the radius should be x in terms of y and I don't see any good method of solving $y= 3x^2- x^3$ for x.
• March 4th 2013, 10:46 AM
togo
Re: In need of verification and help, integration of volumes
Yes shell method, not sure how disks got in there. I plotted it out and can see it now. Although I don't see any hole in the middle

http://i50.tinypic.com/2jaew6a.png