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    int3egral , polinomials

    Dear All!
    please, can someone help me solve this:

    \int \frac{x^2+4}{x^2+16}dx

    would it be proper:

    }int \frac{x^2+16-12}{x^2+16}=\int \frac{x^2+16}{x^2+16dx}-\int \frac{12}{x^2+16}dx=\int(1)dx-12\int  \frac{1}{x^2+16}

    =x-12 \frac{1}{4}arctan(x/4)+C
    what to do now?
    Thanks in advance!
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    Re: int3egral , polinomials

    It's OK to look up (or remember) a standard integral like this.

    If you want to do it yourself you can use the substitution x=4\tan\theta

    Haha. I think you finished the problem while I was typing my post.

    Apart from 12 x 1/4 = 3 of course, but really you're finished.
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    Re: int3egral , polinomials

    Thanks tutor!
    Still have to check if they ment sth else!!!
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    Re: int3egral , polinomials

    Hello!
    Please, the answer should be:
    \frac{\sqrt{2}}{4}arctan\frac{x-\sqrt{2}}{\sqrt{2}}+\frac{\sqrt{2}}{4}arctan\frac{  x+\sqrt{2}}{\sqrt{2}}+C

    Please, the hell, how to get it???
    many thanks!!!
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    Re: int3egral , polinomials

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo View Post
    Hello!
    Please, the answer should be:
    \frac{\sqrt{2}}{4}arctan\frac{x-\sqrt{2}}{\sqrt{2}}+\frac{\sqrt{2}}{4}arctan\frac{  x+\sqrt{2}}{\sqrt{2}}+C

    Please, the hell, how to get it???
    many thanks!!!
    No. The answer you gave in your first post in this thread is correct.

    x-3\tan^{-1}\left(\frac{x}{4}\right)+C.
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    Re: int3egral , polinomials

    The result you give is \int \frac{x^2+4}{x^4+16} \,dx instead of \int \frac{x^2+4}{x^2+16} \,dx. Did you copy the question correctly in your original post?

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    Re: int3egral , polinomials

    Ujoj!!!
    The first one with x^4is right!!!
    Seems I could solve "my version" but I cant solve the one they worte in the book...
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    Re: int3egral , polinomials

    \int \frac{x^2+4}{x^4+^16= }
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    Re: int3egral , polinomials

    You would factor x^4+16 as (x^2+2\sqrt{2}x+4)(x^2-2\sqrt{2}x+4) and use partial fractions. It'll take a lot of work, but there's no trick or anything. Just follow the method and the answer should come right out.

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    Re: int3egral , polinomials

    \frac{Ax+B}{x^2-2\sqrt{2}x+4}+\frac{Cx+D}{x^2-2\sqrt{2}x+4}
    (Ax+B)(x^2+2\sqrt{2}x+4)+(Cx+D)(x^2-2\sqrt{2}x+4)=x^2+4
    Ax^3+Bx^2+2\sqrt{2}Ax^2+2\sqrt{2}Bx+4Ax+4B+Bx^3+Cx  ^2+2\sqrt{2}Bx^2+2\sqrt{2}Cx+4Bx+4C=x^2+4

    Do we eliminate now x^3 and x^1 as it should be zero-I suppose?

    Am I right till now???
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    Re: int3egral , polinomials

    That's the correct idea, but you're making mistakes. Here's what I got:

    \frac{x^2+4}{x^4+16}=\frac{Ax+B}{x^2-2\sqrt{2}x+4}+\frac{Cx+D}{x^2+2\sqrt{2}x+4}

    (Ax+B)(x^2+2\sqrt{2}x+4)+(Cx+D)(x^2-2\sqrt{2}x+4)=x^2+4

    (A+C)x^3 + (2\sqrt{2}A - 2\sqrt{2}C + B + D)x^2 +
    (2\sqrt{2}B - 2\sqrt{2}D + 4A + 4C)x + (4B+4D) = x^2+4

    We can equate all four coefficients:
    A+C=0
    2\sqrt{2}A - 2\sqrt{2}C + B + D=1
    2\sqrt{2}B - 2\sqrt{2}D + 4A + 4C=0
    4B+4D=4

    Next you can solve for A, B, C, and D - four equations in four unknowns. You should get A=C=0 and B=D=\frac{1}{2}. Now you can integrate the two functions - do you know how?

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