# Continuity limit graph help

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• Dec 20th 2012, 11:28 PM
Mathinik
Continuity limit graph help
Please graph this piecewise function and answer the questions that follow.

F(x)= { 1/x if x<1
0 if x=1
1 if x>1

1.)Label any discontinuity and what type of discontinuity.
2.)What values of c does - lim as x approaches c of F(x)- NOT exist?

This is a question from my final test in my calc class. We don't get the test back .
I don't get to hear from the instructor maybe a week from today. I'm SO eager to know the answers and if I did it right. Thanks in advance!
• Dec 21st 2012, 03:13 AM
chiro
Re: Continuity limit graph help
Hey Mathinik.

You are definitely going to get a discontinuity at x = 1: can you guess why (Hint: continuity implies lim x->a f(x) = f(a): where does this condition fail?)
• Dec 21st 2012, 03:19 AM
Mathinik
Re: Continuity limit graph help
I answered, infinite discontinuity at x=0, jump discontinuity at x=1, and a removable discontinuity at x=1. Are those the right answers?

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Originally Posted by chiro
Hey Mathinik.

You are definitely going to get a discontinuity at x = 1: can you guess why (Hint: continuity implies lim x->a f(x) = f(a): where does this condition fail?)

• Dec 21st 2012, 03:22 AM
chiro
Re: Continuity limit graph help
I'm not sure what removable means but you are right about the other properties.
• Dec 21st 2012, 03:24 AM
Mathinik
Re: Continuity limit graph help
Removable or hole discontinuity
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Originally Posted by chiro
I'm not sure what removable means but you are right about the other properties.

• Dec 21st 2012, 03:25 AM
chiro
Re: Continuity limit graph help
That sounds right then.
• Dec 21st 2012, 07:52 AM
Mathinik
Re: Continuity limit graph help
Need help still, from others?
• Dec 21st 2012, 08:17 AM
emakarov
Re: Continuity limit graph help
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Originally Posted by Mathinik
I answered, infinite discontinuity at x=0, jump discontinuity at x=1, and a removable discontinuity at x=1. Are those the right answers?

How can there be both jump discontinuity and removable discontinuity at x = 1? It should be removable. Concerning x = 0, Wikipedia stresses that a point of discontinuity must belong to the function's domain by definition, so x = 0 is not a point of discontinuity. This may not be a universal convention, so you need to check your sources.

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Originally Posted by Mathinik
2.)What values of c does - lim as x approaches c of F(x)- NOT exist?

c = 0.
• Dec 21st 2012, 08:19 AM
Plato
Re: Continuity limit graph help
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Originally Posted by Mathinik
Need help still, from others?

Any other answer will depend upon which textbook you are following.
The discontinuity at $\displaystyle x=1$ is most often called a removable discontinuity.

The discontinuity at $\displaystyle x=0$ is called several different names.
One being an essential discontinuity. I have seen authors who make a different name because there is no limit at $\displaystyle x=0$ as opposed to either $\displaystyle \pm\infty$ being the limit. So, I were you, I would read the text.
• Dec 21st 2012, 11:55 AM
Mathinik
Re: Continuity limit graph help
When I graph the function I also have the point (0,1) and together with 1/x from x<1 it has a jump discontinuity at x=1. X=0 is a point of discontinuity coz it has an asymptote/ break.

C=O DNE, because the function will have an asymptote over there, so it is no continuous over there too. I answered c=0 and c=1(bec of the jump)

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Originally Posted by emakarov
How can there be both jump discontinuity and removable discontinuity at x = 1? It should be removable. Concerning x = 0, Wikipedia stresses that a point of discontinuity must belong to the function's domain by definition, so x = 0 is not a point of discontinuity. This may not be a universal convention, so you need to check your sources.

c = 0.

• Dec 21st 2012, 12:01 PM
Mathinik
Re: Continuity limit graph help
Are there two discontinuity at x=1? Based on the function's domain?

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Originally Posted by Plato
Any other answer will depend upon which textbook you are following.
The discontinuity at $\displaystyle x=1$ is most often called a removable discontinuity.

The discontinuity at $\displaystyle x=0$ is called several different names.
One being an essential discontinuity. I have seen authors who make a different name because there is no limit at $\displaystyle x=0$ as opposed to either $\displaystyle \pm\infty$ being the limit. So, I were you, I would read the text.

• Dec 21st 2012, 12:08 PM
Plato
Re: Continuity limit graph help
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Originally Posted by Mathinik
Are there two discontinuity at x=1?

No, there is only one. As I said, what it is called depends upon your textbook.
Jump or removable are two impossibles.
• Dec 21st 2012, 12:11 PM
Mathinik
Re: Continuity limit graph help
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Originally Posted by emakarov
How can there be both jump discontinuity and removable discontinuity at x = 1? It should be removable. Concerning x = 0, Wikipedia stresses that a point of discontinuity must belong to the function's domain by definition, so x = 0 is not a point of discontinuity. This may not be a universal convention, so you need to check your sources.

c = 0.

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Originally Posted by Plato
No, there is only one. As I said, what it is called depends upon your textbook.
Jump or removable are two impossibles.

I answered wrong then, on my test.
• Dec 21st 2012, 02:48 PM
emakarov
Re: Continuity limit graph help
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Originally Posted by Mathinik
When I graph the function I also have the point (0,1) and together with 1/x from x<1 it has a jump discontinuity at x=1.

Do you mean you have (1,0) in the graph? The jump discontinuity is called this way not because there is a jump between the limit of the function (1 in this case) and the value of the function (0 in this case) at that point. The fact that there is a discontinuity already means that either the limit does not exist or it is not equal to the function value. Rather, it is called jump discontinuity because there are left and right limits and there is a jump between those. The value of the function does not matter. In this case, both left and right limits are 1, so this is a removable discontinuity (if f(1) were 1 instead of 0, the function would be continuous at x = 1).

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Originally Posted by Mathinik
C=O DNE, because the function will have an asymptote over there, so it is no continuous over there too. I answered c=0 and c=1(bec of the jump)

c = 0 is correct, but the limit when x -> 1 exists.

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Originally Posted by Mathinik
Are there two discontinuity at x=1?

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Originally Posted by Plato
No, there is only one. As I said, what it is called depends upon your textbook.
Jump or removable are two impossibles.

Do you mean, "two possibilities"?
• Dec 21st 2012, 03:02 PM
fkf
Re: Continuity limit graph help
I was taught that you don't talk about a discontinuity in points were the function is not defined. As in this example the function is not defined in x = 0. Hence we don't have a discontinuity here.

But at x = 1 we have a discontinuity. The book told us it was a removable discontinuity, and in this point we don't have lim{x->1} = f(1).

For the second question we need to know that
lim{x->a} f(x) = L <=> lim{x->a+} f(x) = lim{x->a-} f(x) = L
to consider the function having a limit L at x = a.

Thus we have no limit att x = 0 and neither at x = 1.
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