Hey, I'd appreciate any help taking the integral below. The two methods I know are by substitution and by parts, can I use either of those? Thanks in advance!

- Jun 14th 2012, 02:58 PMGuiHow do I take this definite integral? From x^2 to sin(x), of t / t^4 + 1, dt.
Hey, I'd appreciate any help taking the integral below. The two methods I know are by substitution and by parts, can I use either of those? Thanks in advance!

- Jun 14th 2012, 03:23 PMa tutorRe: How do I take this definite integral? FRom x^2 to sin(x), of t / t^4 + 1, dt.
The substitution u=t^2 works.

- Jun 14th 2012, 03:43 PMKmathRe: How do I take this definite integral? FRom x^2 to sin(x), of t / t^4 + 1, dt.
- Jun 14th 2012, 03:48 PMGuiRe: How do I take this definite integral? FRom x^2 to sin(x), of t / t^4 + 1, dt.
a tutor: I'm trying, but stuck. I'll try and get a scan of my results up.

Kmath: Isn't it arctan(t^2)/2? I put it into my ti-89 and it gave me that; wolframalpha times out. - Jun 14th 2012, 03:56 PMKmathRe: How do I take this definite integral? FRom x^2 to sin(x), of t / t^4 + 1, dt.
- Jun 14th 2012, 03:58 PMGuiRe: How do I take this definite integral? FRom x^2 to sin(x), of t / t^4 + 1, dt.
Ah ok :) Here's my work so far, but I'm pretty much stuck here... I don't know what to do with the logs. Thanks in advance for all your help!

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Attachment 24082 - Jun 14th 2012, 04:05 PMKmathRe: How do I take this definite integral? FRom x^2 to sin(x), of t / t^4 + 1, dt.
How did you deduce the last move of the first page?

Are you sure that the question need not the derivative? - Jun 14th 2012, 04:08 PMGuiRe: How do I take this definite integral? FRom x^2 to sin(x), of t / t^4 + 1, dt.
Kmath: Yeah, the question does ask for the derivative. Shouldn't I actually find f(x) though, before finding f´(x)?

The last move of the first page.... well, the derivative of ln(x) is 1/x, so the antiderivative of 1/(u^2 + 1) is ln(u^2 + 1)/derivative of u^2 +1, which is ln(u^2 + 1)/2u. Is that not correct? - Jun 14th 2012, 04:15 PMKmathRe: How do I take this definite integral? FRom x^2 to sin(x), of t / t^4 + 1, dt.
[QUOTE=Gui;723170]Kmath: Yeah, the question does ask for the derivative. Shouldn't I actually find f(x) though, before finding f´(x)?

So you can find the derivative with out finding f(x). In this case you can use the fundamental theorem of calculus. - Jun 14th 2012, 04:21 PMKmathRe: How do I take this definite integral? FRom x^2 to sin(x), of t / t^4 + 1, dt.
The last move of the first page.... well, the derivative of ln(x) is 1/x, so the antiderivative of 1/(u^2 + 1) is ln(u^2 + 1)/derivative of u^2 +1, which is ln(u^2 + 1)/2u. Is that not correct?[/QUOTE]

May be you forgot to use the "Quotient rule" that is . - Jun 14th 2012, 04:28 PMGuiRe: How do I take this definite integral? FRom x^2 to sin(x), of t / t^4 + 1, dt.
- Jun 14th 2012, 04:42 PMKmathRe: How do I take this definite integral? FRom x^2 to sin(x), of t / t^4 + 1, dt.