stiffness of a beam question
Hi, I'm having a hard time with this question.
the stiffness of a beam is proportional to it's width times the cube of it's depth. What are the dimensions of the stiffest beam you an produce from a beam 12" in diameter.
So I draw a rectangle inside a circle, and the diagonal inside the rectangle is 12. The width (w) times the depth cubed equals the stiffness.
S=wd^3
d^2+w^2=144 w=sqr(144-d^2)
S=sqr(144-d^2)(d^3)
S'=sqr(144-d^2)(3d^2)+d^3(1/2(144-d^2)^-1/2)
boils down to -d^2(6d^2+d-864)=0, to find critical points.
d=0, or 6d^2+d-864=0
d=(sqr(20737)-1)/2
w= sqr(144-(sqr(20737)-1729)/12)
did I do this right?
The teacher, tried to get us started on this problem, but following through from where he started, I run into a problem which I don't understand.
The teacher, started by trying to find ds/dw.
Here is where he left us off, S=W(144-w^2)^(3/2)
I found it's derivative, 3w^2sqr(144-w^2)+(144-w^2)^3/2
when I solve for 0, I get w=-12, or 12.
Makes no sense because if the width is 12, the depth is zero. Where did I go wrong.
Re: stiffness of a beam question
nobody can help?
I feel like I'm going crazy or something. I cannot find a problem, I have calculated the dw/ds like 5 times and set it to zero, and I get, 12, -12. The correct answer should be 6.
Can anyone find the derivative of s=w(144-w^2)^1/2? Set it equal to zero, what do you get?
I am wondering if my calculator is just unable to find the 6?
Re: stiffness of a beam question
your first derivative for S'(d) is incorrect, it should be:
\sqrt{144-d^2} + \frac{1}{2}\frac{d^3}{\sqrt{144-d^2}}(-2d))
\sqrt{144-d^2} - \frac{d^4}{\sqrt{144-d^2}})
setting this equal to 0, and multiplying by the square root in the denominator (since d = 12 makes no sense) you get:
which simplifies to:
, giving
.
your second derivation is also incorrect, you should have:
,
setting that equal to 0, and taking out the factor under the root (as before), we get:
which leads directly to
, as it should.
(and i can add from personal experience, that a 6x10 beam is a perfectly reasonable size)
Re: stiffness of a beam question