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    Domain of a Derivative

    I have a quick question: what is domain of the derivative of f(x) = 5?
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    I have two questions for you:

    1. What is the domain of f(x)?
    2. What is the derivative of f(x)?
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    The domain of f(x) is all real numbers

    the derivative of f(x) is:

    \lim_{h \to \0}\frac{f(x+h)-f(x)}{h }

    \lim_{h \to \0}\frac{5-5}{h }

    \lim_{h \to \0}\frac{0}{h }

    = \frac{0}{0 }
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    I would agree with all but your last line of the computation. h never actually equals zero (it's a limit!), whereas the numerator is identically zero. Hence the overall limit is what?

    I was asking about the domain of f(x), in case the problem had artificially restricted the domain. But no, you have the natural domain (the largest domain that makes sense). So, based on that information, plus the corrected derivative, can you tell me what the domain of the derivative is?
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    The overall limit is 0/h

    But nope...i'm still confused with the domain

    I have to go to class...i guess i'll ask my lecturer
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    Quote Originally Posted by purplec16 View Post
    The overall limit is 0/h
    Incorrect. Once you've taken the limit, there should no longer be an h in it.

    But nope...i'm still confused with the domain
    Let's get the correct derivative before going on (see above).
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    The domain is obviously the set of real numbers. As for the limit,
    \lim_{h \to \0}( 0/h)= \lim_{h \to \0}( 0/1) by l'hopital's rule which can be used since 0/0 is an indeterminate form.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Duke View Post
    The domain is obviously the set of real numbers. As for the limit,
    \lim_{h \to \0}( 0/h)= \lim_{h \to \0}( 0/1) by l'hopital's rule which can be used since 0/0 is an indeterminate form.
    Doubtful that l'Hopital's Rule is available at the moment, since it depends on derivatives, which is exactly what we're trying to compute.
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    \lim_{h \to \0}0/h = \lim_{h \to \0}0
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    Quote Originally Posted by Duke View Post
    \lim_{h \to \0}0/h = \lim_{h \to \0}0
    I agree; this is what I was getting at in post # 4, and what I was trying to get the OP'er to figure out on her own.

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    i knew the correct derivative and i knew it was all real numbers i was just doubting myslef thank so much though! ackbeet and duke
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    You're welcome for my contribution.
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