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    Equation of plane through two points and parallel to line

    Find the equation of the plane passing through the points (3, 2, -1) and (1, -1, 2) that is parallel to the line r(t) = <1, -1, 0> + t<3, 2, -1>
    Let P = (3, 2, -1) , Q = (1, -1, 2) and R = <3, 2, -1> = direction vector from r(t)

    a = PQ = <1, -1, 2> - <3, 2, -1> = <-2, 3, -3>
    b = QR = <3, 2, -1> - <1, -1, 2> = <2, 3, -3>

    N = a x b = <0, -12, -12>

    Now I'm going to choose a point on the plane, P = (3, 2, -1)

    d = n dot OP = <0, -12, -12> dot <3, 2, -1> = -12(2) + 12 = -12

    So it follows that the plane has equation -12y + -12z = -12 or y + z = 1 So it appears that using the direction vector, as I did, from r(t) and generating the plane using those three points is completely wrong. Any guidance?
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    Quote Originally Posted by blackbear View Post
    Let P = (3, 2, -1) , Q = (1, -1, 2) and R = <3, 2, -1> = direction vector from r(t)

    a = PQ = <1, -1, 2> - <3, 2, -1> = <-2, 3, -3>
    This isn't "PR". It would be RQ, which is the negative of QR, except that you have subtracted wrong. For the second component, -1- 2= -3, not 3 and for the third component 2- (-1)= 3, not -3.

    b = QR = <3, 2, -1> - <1, -1, 2> = <2, 3, -3>

    N = a x b = <0, -12, -12>

    Now I'm going to choose a point on the plane, P = (3, 2, -1)

    d = n dot OP = <0, -12, -12> dot <3, 2, -1> = -12(2) + 12 = -12

    So it follows that the plane has equation -12y + -12z = -12 or y + z = 1 So it appears that using the direction vector, as I did, from r(t) and generating the plane using those three points is completely wrong. Any guidance?
    Yes. Repeat what you did but this time do it correctly.

    You don't actually need to find "PR" or "QR" (technically, you can't- R is a vector not a point). Just use PQ, a vector in the surface, and R. R is not necessarily in the surface but it is parallel to it so the cross product of PQ and R will be perpendicular to the surface.
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    Re: Equation of plane through two points and parallel to line

    Hi, could you please explain this question, i am completely stuck on it. Thanks!!
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    Re: Equation of plane through two points and parallel to line

    Hi, would you be able to re-explain this question from the beginning, i have to understand it for school tomorrow and Im so confused.
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    Re: Equation of plane through two points and parallel to line

    A plane with equation \displaystyle \begin{align*} a\,x + b\,y + c\,z = d \end{align*} has the same coefficients as the normal vector \displaystyle \begin{align*} \mathbf{n} = a\mathbf{i} + b\mathbf{j} + c\mathbf{k} \end{align*}. To get a normal vector to the plane, you take the cross product of two vectors in the plane. You already have one vector \displaystyle \begin{align*} \mathbf{r} \end{align*}. You can use the two points you are given to get another vector in the plane.

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    Re: Equation of plane through two points and parallel to line

    So, I take PQ X R as my coefficients of the plane?
    (-2,-3,3)x(3,2,-1)=(-3,7,5)
    -3x+7y+5z=0 is parallel to the line and includes p and q?
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    Re: Equation of plane through two points and parallel to line

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    Re: Equation of plane through two points and parallel to line

    P, Q, and X are in a plane perpendicular to r(t) in dir d

    (PQ)X(PX) is perpendicular to plane and has to be perpendicular to dir d of r(t)

    (PQ)X(PX)d = 0, or, in determinant form: |(PQ);(PX);d|=0
    (PQ)=(3,2,-1) - (1,-1,2)=(2,3,-1)
    (PX)=(3,2,-1) (x,y,z)=[(3-x),(2-y),(-1-z)]
    d=(3,2,-1)

    3x-7y-5z=0
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    Re: Equation of plane through two points and parallel to line

    Quote Originally Posted by OVOXO View Post
    So, I take PQ X R as my coefficients of the plane?
    (-2,-3,3)x(3,2,-1)=(-3,7,5)
    -3x+7y+5z=0 is parallel to the line and includes p and q?
    How do you know that d = 0? Use a point you know lies on the plane as (x, y, z) in the equation of your plane to evaluate d.
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    Re: Equation of plane through two points and parallel to line

    Thanks Prove It, you are right:

    l = (3.2,-1) dir of line
    PQXl = (2,3,-3)X(3,2,-1) = (3,-7,-5) is normal to plane par to line
    3x-7y-5x=d is equation of plane.
    Substitute P = (3,2,-1) to determine d.
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    Re: Equation of plane through two points and parallel to line

    I had subbed it in and d was equal to zero.
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    Re: Equation of plane through two points and parallel to line

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