How can you determine the type of critical point

f(x,y)=y*x^2+x*y^2

Has at (0,0)?

- Mar 24th 2011, 09:18 AMLHSDetermining types of critical points of two variable functions
How can you determine the type of critical point

f(x,y)=y*x^2+x*y^2

Has at (0,0)? - Mar 24th 2011, 10:27 AMHallsofIvy
There is a version of the "second derivative test" that works for functions of two variables. The analog of df/dx for functions of two variables is the matrix

$\displaystyle \begin{bmatrix}\frac{\partial^2 f}{\partial x^2} & \frac{\partial^2 f}{\partial x\partial y} \\ \frac{\partial^2 f}{\partial x\partial y} & \frac{\partial^2 f}{\partial x^2}\end{bmatrix}$

If the determinant of that matrix (at the given (x,y)) is positive then either:

1) if $\displaystyle \frac{\partial^2 f}{\partial x^2}> 1$ the point gives a minimum.

2) if $\displaystyle \frac{\partial^2 f}{\partial x^2}< 1$ the point gives a maximum.

If the determinant is negative, then the point gives a saddle point.

If the determinant is 0, the "second derivative test" won't give you an answer and, having written all of that, I now notice that is the case!

So, instead, look what happens on lines through (0, 0). On the line x= 0, f(0, y)= 0 for all y and similarly, on y= 0, f(x, 0)= 0. But on the line y= x, $\displaystyle f(x,x)= 2x^3$ the graph goes up for x positive and down for x negative. That gives you the answer. - Mar 24th 2011, 10:53 AMLHS
Thank you very much! I was wondering if that was the case. If for instance, for a different function, I took the lines you suggested, but they all gave functions in the form ax^4 would that make it a minimum, or be inconclusive?

- Mar 25th 2011, 04:23 AMHallsofIvy
When trying different lines, you are looking for "counter-examples" and counter examples can only prove something is NOT true.

Your original example gave lines that went both up and down- the "down" part was a counter example to "minimum" and the "up" part was a counter example to "maximum"- and that left only "saddle point".

If you try different lines and find that they give increasing values, that is a counter example to "maximum" but it does not follow that it must be a minimum- there might be other lines that you did not try on which the function decreases- it could still be either a maximum or a minimum. But situations in which the "second derivative test" does not apply (the determinant is 0) are rare. What do you get when you apply that test here? - Mar 25th 2011, 04:26 AMLHS
Thanks very much!