very easy 3 probs ...

**earthboy** · December 22nd 2010, 09:14 PM

as i am new to calculus & probability,pls show how to do these problems(may be very trivial

)

problem 1:show that the height of a right circular cylinder of the greatest volume that can be inscribed in a right circular cone is one-third of that of the cone.
(using derivatives and limits....)

problem 2:using integration,find the area enclosed by the curves $y= x^{2}$ and $y=x+2$

problem 3: out of 21 tickets marked with numbers from 1 to 21, three are drawn at random.Find the probability that the numbers on them are in A.P.

please help!!!thanks in advance

**dwsmith** · December 22nd 2010, 09:17 PM

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**dwsmith** · December 22nd 2010, 09:20 PM

Originally Posted by earthboy

problem 3: out of 21 tickets marked with numbers from 1 to 21, three are drawn at random.Find the probability that the numbers on them are in A.P.

The tickets have numbers so why are we looking for letters?

**BAdhi** · December 22nd 2010, 11:03 PM

1) i think my diagram is correct. if so, take a relationship between h and r from H and R which are constants

then calculate the volume V of the cylinder and differentiate it with respect to either h (or r). Find for which value for h (or r) you get the $\frac{dV}{dh}=0$

take $\frac{d^2V}{dh^2}$ . If for each calculated value for h, you'll get a minus for $\frac{d^2V}{dh^2}$ it means V is maximum for that value for that h

**earthboy** · December 22nd 2010, 11:55 PM

could someone write problem 2 in a little more detail(i couldnt understand)

Originally Posted by dwsmith

The tickets have numbers so why are we looking for letters?

sorry,but i dont get you

**CaptainBlack** · December 22nd 2010, 11:58 PM

Originally Posted by dwsmith

The tickets have numbers so why are we looking for letters?

A.P. <=> Arithmetic Progression

CB

**BAdhi** · December 23rd 2010, 12:22 AM

substitute $g(x)=0$ , $f(x)=x^2$ tha'll give you the area under the curve

**HallsofIvy** · December 23rd 2010, 01:42 AM

Originally Posted by earthboy

as i am new to calculus & probability,pls show how to do these problems(may be very trivial

)

problem 1:show that the height of a right circular cylinder of the greatest volume that can be inscribed in a right circular cone is one-third of that of the cone.
(using derivatives and limits....)

Let the height of the cone be "h" and the radius of the base "R". If you set up a coordinate system so that the origin is at the center of the base and the axis is along the positive z-axis, then the slant side, in the xz-plane, passes through (0, 0, h) and (R, 0, 0) and so has equation z= h(1- x/R), y= 0.

A cylinder of radius r, with center at (0, 0, 0) and axis along the positive z-axis, inscribed in that cone will go up to that line at x= r; its height is h(1- r/R) and so its volume is [itex]\pi r^2(h(1- r/R))= \pi h (r^2- r^3/R)[/itex]. That will have maximum volume when its derivative is 0- [itex]\pi r^2h (2r- 3r^2/R)= 0[/itex]. [itex]r(2- 3r/)= 0[/itex] when r= 0 (the minimum volume) or r= (2/3)R.

Now, the height is given by h(1- r/R)= h(1- 2/3)= (1/3)h.

**Soroban** · December 23rd 2010, 04:21 AM

Hello, earthboy!

Problem 3 is intriguing.

Problem 3: Out of 21 tickets marked with numbers from 1 to 21, tjree are
drawn at random. Find the probability that the numbers on them are in A.P.

There are: . $\displaystyle _{21}C_3 \:=\:{21\choose3} \:=\:\frac{21!}{3!\,18!} \:=\:1330\text{ possible outcomes.}$

How many of them are in Arithmetic Progression?

I tried to derive a formula, and came up with this:

. . With integers from 1 to $\,n$ ,

. . . . $\begin{array}{ccc}\text{If }n\text{ is odd, }2k+1: & k^2\text{ AP's.} \\ \\[-3mm]<br /> \text{If }n\text{ is even, }2k: & k(k-1)\text{ AP's.}<br /> \end{array}$

Hence, for $n = 21,\:k = 10,\;\text{ there are }10^2 = 100$ AP's.

Therefore: . $P(\text{A.P.}) \;=\;\dfrac{100}{1330} \;=\;\dfrac{10}{133}$

**earthboy** · December 23rd 2010, 04:40 AM

Originally Posted by Soroban

Hello, earthboy!

I tried to derive a formula, and came up with this:

. . With integers from 1 to $\,n$ ,

. . . . $\begin{array}{ccc}\text{If }n\text{ is odd, }2k+1: & k^2\text{ AP's.} \\ \\[-3mm]<br /> \text{If }n\text{ is even, }2k: & k(k-1)\text{ AP's.}<br /> \end{array}$

can you give a hint on how to prove this fact???

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