These are two different types of max min problems but I understand that they go on a graph instead of being the usual rectangle with a given value question.

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- May 28th 2007, 05:24 PMSportfreundeKeaneKentMax/Mins Without Numerical Values (On Graph)
These are two different types of max min problems but I understand that they go on a graph instead of being the usual rectangle with a given value question.

http://img516.imageshack.us/img516/4438/45lc1.png - May 28th 2007, 05:31 PMJhevon
For the first:

two lines are parrallel if they have the same slope. the slope of the line is 9. so we simply want to find the $\displaystyle x$'s that make the tangent lines to the curve have a slope of 9. the derivative gives the formula for the slope of the tangent line.

$\displaystyle y = x^3 - 3x^2$

$\displaystyle \Rightarrow y' = 3x^2 - 6x$

Now we simply solve:

$\displaystyle 3x^2 - 6x = 9$

i leave that to you - May 28th 2007, 05:35 PMJhevon
see http://www.mathhelpforum.com/math-he...ma-minima.html as a hint for the second

i assume you remember how to maximize a function - Jun 1st 2007, 03:09 PMSportfreundeKeaneKent
A question about the one with the tangent. Would you sub x=-1,3 (the two values I obtain after factoring and finding x) into y=x^3-3x^2 or into y=9x+7?

I'm guessing that you'd sub it into y=9x+7 to obtain the two points to be (3,34) and (-1,-2) - Jun 1st 2007, 03:11 PMJhevon
we want two points ON THE CURVE, therefore you would plug them into the original function to obtain the y-values for the points. we wouldn't sub them into the line, unless we knew that the line intersected with our curve exactly at the points where the slope of the curve is 9. so just plug them into $\displaystyle y = x^3 - 3x^2$

why did you think you would plug it into the line? - Jun 1st 2007, 03:35 PMSportfreundeKeaneKent
Oh wait, I wrote it the wrong way around. So the points are just (-1,-4) and (3,0)

- Jun 1st 2007, 03:39 PMJhevon
- Jun 2nd 2007, 08:43 AMcurvaturetangent lines
tangent lines