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    how do you take the derivative of y=((x^2+7)/(x^2+8))^{1/7} ?

    I used logarithmic differentiation and got:  (((2x)/(7x^2+49))-((2x)/(7x^2+56)))((x^2+7)/(x^2+8))^{1/7}

    Doesn't seem to be correct, though..
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    Have you tried checking your work in WolframAlpha?

    http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=differentiate+y%3D((x^2%2B7)/(x^2%2B8))^{1/7

    Good luck!
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    Quote Originally Posted by cdlegendary View Post
    how do you take the derivative of y=((x^2+7)/(x^2+8))^{1/7} ?

    I used logarithmic differentiation and got:  (((2x)/(7x^2+49))-((2x)/(7x^2+56)))((x^2+7)/(x^2+8))^{1/7}

    Doesn't seem to be correct, though..
    ln(y)= ln(x^2+ 7)- (1/7)ln(x^2+ 8)
    so \frac{1}{y}\frac{dy}{dx}= \frac{2x}{x^2+7}- \frac{2x}{7(x^2+ 8)}.

    I cannot see any reason to have the "7" multiplied in the denominator of the first fraction.
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    i need to take the derivative of the above equation...none of the results seem to be working. and wolfram alpha gets a strange result, too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HallsofIvy View Post
    ln(y)= ln(x^2+ 7)- (1/7)ln(x^2+ 8)
    so \frac{1}{y}\frac{dy}{dx}= \frac{2x}{x^2+7}- \frac{2x}{7(x^2+ 8)}.

    I cannot see any reason to have the "7" multiplied in the denominator of the first fraction.
    Actually since

    y = \left(\frac{x^2 + 7}{x^2 + 8}\right)^{\frac{1}{7}}

    That means

    \ln{y} = \ln{\left(\frac{x^2 + 7}{x^2 + 8}\right)^{\frac{1}{7}}}

     = \frac{1}{7}\ln{\left(\frac{x^2 + 7}{x^2 + 8}\right)}

     = \frac{1}{7}[\ln{(x^2 + 7)} - \ln{(x^2 + 8)}]

     = \frac{1}{7}\ln{(x^2 + 7)} - \frac{1}{7}\ln{(x^2 + 8)}.


    Therefore

    \frac{1}{y}\,\frac{dy}{dx} = \frac{2x}{7(x^2 + 7)} - \frac{2x}{7(x^2 + 8)}

     = \frac{2x(x^2 + 8) - 2x(x^2 + 7)}{7(x^2 + 7)(x^2 + 8)}

     = \frac{2x(x^2 + 8 - x^2 - 7)}{7(x^2 + 7)(x^2 + 8)}

     = \frac{2x}{7(x^2 + 7)(x^2 + 8)}.


    Therefore

    \frac{dy}{dx} = \frac{2xy}{7(x^2 + 7)(x^2 + 8)}

     = \frac{2x\left(\frac{x^2 + 7}{x^2 + 8}\right)^{\frac{1}{7}}}{7(x^2 + 7)(x^2 + 8)}

     = \frac{\frac{2x(x^2+7)^{\frac{1}{7}}}{(x^2 + 8)^{\frac{1}{7}}}}{7(x^2 + 7)(x^2 + 8)}

     = \frac{2x(x^2 + 7)^{\frac{1}{7}}}{7(x^2 + 7)(x^2 + 8)(x^2 + 8)^{\frac{1}{7}}}

     = \frac{2x}{7(x^2 + 7)^{\frac{6}{7}}(x^2+ 8)^{\frac{8}{7}}}.
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