# Thread: derivative - using quotient rule

1. ## derivative - using quotient rule

how do I get the derivative of:

-4x
---------
(x^2-1)^2

the answer is

12x^2+4
--------------
(x^2-1)^3

using the quotient rule, it seems simple enough but I cant seem to cancel out properly. Thanks!

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3. Originally Posted by calculus0 how do I get the derivative of:

-4x
---------
(x^2-1)^2

the answer is

12x^2+4
--------------
(x^2-1)^3

using the quotient rule, it seems simple enough but I cant seem to cancel out properly. Thanks!
$\displaystyle y = \frac{-4x}{(x^2 - 1)^2}$

$\displaystyle \frac{dy}{dx} = \frac{(x^2 - 1)^2\,\frac{d}{dx}(-4x) - (-4x)\,\frac{d}{dx}[(x^2 - 1)^2]}{[(x^2 - 1)^2]^2}$

$\displaystyle = \frac{-4(x^2 - 1)^2 + 4x(2x)(2)(x^2 - 1)}{(x^2 - 1)^4}$

$\displaystyle = \frac{-4(x^2 - 1)^2 + 16x^2(x^2 - 1)}{(x^2 - 1)^4}$

$\displaystyle = \frac{(x^2 - 1)[-4(x^2 - 1) + 16x^2]}{(x^2 - 1)^4}$

$\displaystyle = \frac{-4x^2 + 4 + 16x^2}{(x^2 - 1)^3}$

$\displaystyle = \frac{12x^2 + 4}{(x^2 - 1)^3}$

$\displaystyle = \frac{4(3x^2 + 1)}{(x^2 - 1)^3}$.

4. Next time, show your efforts. Someone will be pleased to help you whereever you wander off.

5. Dear calculus0,

By the time I typed the answer it had already been given by other members. Hope these answers will help you.

6. THANKS! everyone.. that was so fast.

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