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    trig function derivative

    Given that  x = cosy^{2}

    find dy/dx in terms of y;

    I am not sure which rule to use, do I use the product rule or chain rule?

    I thought I should use the chain rule and this is what I get;

    first differentiate cos which = -sin

    than do y^2 to get 2y.

    so  \frac{dx}{dy} = -sin2y

    I know this wrong, but can someone please tell me what I am doing wrong?
    the correct answer is  \frac{dx}{dy} = -siny^{2} \times 2y


    thanks,
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tweety View Post
    Given that  x = cosy^{2}

    find dy/dx in terms of y;

    I am not sure which rule to use, do I use the product rule or chain rule?

    I thought I should use the chain rule and this is what I get;

    first differentiate cos which = -sin

    than do y^2 to get 2y.

    so  \frac{dx}{dy} = -sin2y

    I know this wrong, but can someone please tell me what I am doing wrong?
    the correct answer is  \frac{dx}{dy} = -siny^{2} \times 2y


    thanks,
    which do you mean ...

    x = \cos(y^2) or x = (\cos{y})^2

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    Quote Originally Posted by skeeter View Post
    which do you mean ...

    x = \cos(y^2) or x = (\cos{y})^2

    ?
    The first one. x = \cos(y^2)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tweety View Post
    The first one. x = \cos(y^2)
    your question says to find \frac{dy}{dx}, but the answer is \frac{dx}{dy} , so I'll do both.

    \frac{d}{dx}[x = \cos(y^2)]

    chain rule on the right side ...

    1 = -\sin(y^2) \cdot 2y \frac{dy}{dx}

    \frac{dy}{dx} = -\frac{1}{2y\sin(y^2)}



    \frac{d}{dy}[x = \cos(y^2)]

    \frac{dx}{dy} = -\sin(y^2) \cdot 2y

    \frac{dx}{dy} = -2y \sin(y^2)
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    I think am not understanding how your using the chain rule on  cosy^{2}

    I use this expression ;
     y = f(x)^{n} =  \frac{dy}{dx}  = nf(x)^{n-1} f '(x)

    there's no 'inside bit in the expression  cosy^{2} its just one, so how do you separate the variables?

    for example in this expression  y = 6(4x-2)^{3} I would first differenciate the expression in the bracket and than do the out side leaving the inside the same and than multiply both expressions.

    So am just wondering how  cosy^{2} fits into the above formula.

    Thank you.
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    note that for x = \cos(y^2) , only the y is squared, not the cosine function.

    the derivative w/r to x is

    1 = -\sin(y^2) \cdot (the \, derivative \, of \, y^2) = -sin(y^2) \cdot 2y \cdot \frac{dy}{dx}
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