# xsin^-1 x

• September 20th 2009, 12:21 PM
MissWonder
xsin^-1 x
Hello :P

How do i simplify this?:

log4(16)*log4(4)

And this:
f(x)=xsin^(-1)x

(Happy) thanks...!
• September 20th 2009, 12:27 PM
Kasper
Quote:

Originally Posted by MissWonder
Hello :P

How do i simplify this?:

log4(16)*log4(4)

(Happy) thanks...!

Welcome to MHF!

2 rules very handy for this type of problem are;
$log_{a}a=1$
$log_{a}(b^c)=c \cdot log_{a}b$

So we know $log_{4}4 = 1$

and we can simplify $log_{4}16=log_{4}(4^2)=2log_{4}4$.

Therefore,

$(log_{4}16)(log_{4}4)$

$=(log_{4}(4^2))(1)$

$=(2 \cdot log_{4}4)(1)$

$=(2)(1)(1)$

$=2$

Does this help?
• September 20th 2009, 12:40 PM
Krizalid
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Originally Posted by MissWonder

f(x)=xsin^(-1)x

you can't simplify this as written.
• September 20th 2009, 12:42 PM
MissWonder
Wee yes ;D I did not know the first part with "loga(A)=1".... Thanks kasper, you're the man!... (Heart)

• September 20th 2009, 12:44 PM
MissWonder
$x(sin^-1)x$... better? I really don't know how to write it in a good way :(
• September 20th 2009, 12:54 PM
Kasper
Quote:

Originally Posted by MissWonder
$x(sin^-1)x$... better? I really don't know how to write it in a good way :(

Yeah, if you mean $(x)sin^{-1}(x)$ as in $(x)arcsin(x)$; I'm with Krizalid there.
• September 20th 2009, 01:00 PM
MissWonder
Yeah :P I really can't figure it out either! Maybe differentiate it is sufficient?..
• September 20th 2009, 01:04 PM
Kasper
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Originally Posted by MissWonder
Yeah :P I really can't figure it out either! Maybe differentiate it is sufficient?..

It's not so much that it can't be figured out, there is just no way to simplify that expression further.

Keep in mind that differentiation and algebraic simplification are two very different things!

Differentiating will bring out an entirely new function that is not at all equivalent to the original.
• September 20th 2009, 01:10 PM
MissWonder
I know.. But I can't simplify it.. So maybe differentiate it, and then simplify it?
• September 20th 2009, 01:14 PM
Kasper
Quote:

Originally Posted by MissWonder
I know.. But I can't simplify it.. So maybe differentiate it, and then simplify it?

No, no, because simplification is essentially rewriting a function such that it is equivalent to the original function and so it looks nicer and is easier to work with.

If you differentiate, you lose that equivalency to the original function; so nothing to do with differentiation can be considered an algebraic simplification. Sure you *might* be able to simplify the derivative, but it would not be a simplification of $(x)sin^{-1}(x)$.
• September 20th 2009, 01:27 PM
MissWonder
OMG! I just wrote an e-mail to my mathteacher.. She wrote that a differentiation is sufficient
• September 20th 2009, 02:57 PM
mr fantastic
Quote:

Originally Posted by MissWonder
OMG! I just wrote an e-mail to my mathteacher.. She wrote that a differentiation is sufficient

Perhaps your math teacher knew the exact instructions that came with the expression f(x)=x sin^(-1)x. Because we certainly didn't, despite several increasingly frustrated attempts to find out what they were.

Next time post all the instructions given in the question.