# Simple Math "Progression" - Need Smart People Help

• Jul 7th 2009, 11:40 PM
McMoney
Simple Math "Progression" - Need Smart People Help
Hello Everyone,

Thanks for viewing this and hopefully helping me out with this problem...

I'm writing a report on roulette and I need help figuring out a betting progression.

The minimum bet is \$5, and the maximum bet is \$500.

The "Martingale" theory is doubling your bet (playing black or red) until you win. However, I need a more mathematically correct betting progression.

So the question is, what betting progressions can survive 8 or more spins?

Here is an example of one betting progression that lasts 8 spins but does not hit the \$500 limit (the next bet would be above the limit), and does not yield a profit, only breaks even)

\$5
\$5
\$10
\$20
\$50
\$100
\$200
\$400

The main progression I am looking for is the one that lasts 8 spins, and yields the highest profit!

Thank you so much to whoever can figure this out for me, as I'm absolutely horrible at math!

Thank you!
• Jul 8th 2009, 03:36 AM
HallsofIvy
It's not clear to me what you are looking for here. Obviously, the progression that gives the biggest profit would be one where you win every time. In such a progression you would bet, and win, \$5 on every spin. Of course, you can't control that- that's the whole point.
• Jul 8th 2009, 04:13 AM
McMoney
Hi,

Here's an example: (betting on red or black, which pays 1 to 1)

Bet 1 \$5 - Lose
Bet 2 \$5 - Lose
Bet 3 \$10 - Lose
\$20
\$50
\$100
\$200
Bet 8 \$400 - Win!

So that betting progression allows 8 spins before you hit the max bet, as the 9th bet would be above \$500 which is not allowed. The reason for the two \$5 bets at the start is we're betting to either make a profit, or break even.

If you bet \$5 and win, the next bet would be \$5. Only applying the progression on a loss bet.

So again to clarify, I seek to know the best betting progression between \$5 and \$500 that will last 8 spins, and is the most profitable when you hit a win... assuming it could hit any time.

Hope that makes sense!
• Jul 8th 2009, 04:54 AM
CaptainBlack
Quote:

Originally Posted by McMoney
Hi,

Here's an example: (betting on red or black, which pays 1 to 1)

Bet 1 \$5 - Lose
Bet 2 \$5 - Lose
Bet 3 \$10 - Lose
\$20
\$50
\$100
\$200
Bet 8 \$400 - Win!

So that betting progression allows 8 spins before you hit the max bet, as the 9th bet would be above \$500 which is not allowed. The reason for the two \$5 bets at the start is we're betting to either make a profit, or break even.

If you bet \$5 and win, the next bet would be \$5. Only applying the progression on a loss bet.

So again to clarify, I seek to know the best betting progression between \$5 and \$500 that will last 8 spins, and is the most profitable when you hit a win... assuming it could hit any time.

Hope that makes sense!

The betting strategy with the highest expected return is almost certainly:

\$0,\$0,\$0,\$0,\$0,\$0,\$0,\$0.

with and expected win of \$0.

CB
• Jul 8th 2009, 09:58 AM
HallsofIvy
Quote:

Originally Posted by CaptainBlack
The betting strategy with the highest expected return is almost certainly:

\$0,\$0,\$0,\$0,\$0,\$0,\$0,\$0.

with an expected win of \$0.

CB

Well put, Captain!

McMoney, I don't understand your point. Yes, what you give is a possible progression but you asked for the "best betting progression" which you can't control. The best possible 8 be progression would be to win all 8 bet, thus winning 8(5)= \$40, as I said. But, again, you cannot control that. Using the system you describe, your bets depend on what happens with the wheel- you can't control it. As Captain Black suggests, the best expected outcome is given by turning your back on the roulette wheel and walking out of the casino!